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Trans: 4 or 5 speed

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by Gregkabob, Jun 11, 2008.

  1. Gregkabob

    Gregkabob Member

    My 92 carry has the 4 hi/low with front axel lock and rear diff lock. I've only found four forward gears. Did these vehicles come with either a 4 or 5 speed trans? Am I missing a gear?

    I have not found anything in the book that shows any identifing marks on the trans or if there are different ones available.

    Thanks
     
  2. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    I think that it's more likely to be a 4spd than a 5spd, during my search for a truck I found lots of 4spd's [We in Canada can only get 15 yrs or older] and for these years they made 4spd in the Carry but can't confirm if they had 5 spd's as well. Minibrutes seems pretty up on his specs maybe pm him to see if 5spd available in '92. My Sambar is a 5spd and 5th is to the right and up, so I'm thinking if you did have a 5th it must be over to the right and either up or down. You must push to overcome extra spring [sideways] before going up in mine. Hope this info helps.
     
  3. Gregkabob

    Gregkabob Member

    Thanks Timetripper, After I tuned it up and took it for a spin I ran it though the gears and ended up with only 4. I went up and to the right and nothing there so I'm assuming it's a 4 speed. I never asked when I bought it and never tried till this weekend as I was just tooling around on the farm never over 2nd gear.

    That's ok with me. I was just curious if the trans had any markings on it that would indicate 4 or 5 speed.

    Anxiously waiting for Nov to put some plates on it and be legal on the road.:D
     
  4. Aldee

    Aldee New Member

    i have a 91 with 4 speed and 4h and 4L, it consumes much gas at 4 speed so i bought a 5 speed tranny but the difference now is that it only has 4H. 91 models usually has 4 speed trannies.
     
  5. Suzi-q

    Suzi-q New Member

    hi/lo or 5 speed

    Hey there,

    I have a 90 zuki with the 5 speed plus granny. It seems you either get a 4 speed with hi/lo or a 5 speed plus granny. I have never heard of a 5 speed with hi/lo.
    I seem to recall a thread prefering the 4 with hi/lo over the 5 plus granny but I have had no problems with the 5 speed and don't know why the hi/lo would be better. Ignoance is bliss!
     
  6. Gregkabob

    Gregkabob Member

    Thanks all. I'm happy with what I have and will see how it does on the road.

    Greg
     
  7. AMMOe

    AMMOe New Member

    I was peering in the window of a 96 Carry yesterday and saw that the 5 speed shifter also had a position to the left of the 1st to 2nd gear leg of the pattern. It was marked "EL", I think; it was hard to make out. Is that the granny you are referring to?~Andy
     
  8. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    EL= Extra Low

    Honda Attack has UL = Ultra Low which is even lower plus it has UR = Ultra Reverse

    In my opinion the Honda Attack has the widest gearing of any Kei truck, it might not
    be the best 4x4 [not my point] but it is the only brand to incorporate the gearing of
    a Hi/Low with a overdrive for highway.
     
  9. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Active Member Staff Member

    if you guys had a choice between same truck with a 4 or 5 speed what would you pick and why? (lots in town are 4 speed and i don't know if that is what i would want)
     
  10. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Moderator

    i bought a 5 speed on purpose, the 4 speeds were alright on the dirt but were breathing pretty hard on the hiway... i would rather have another gear that i don't need than need another gear i don't have ;)
     
  11. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    Well said!
     
  12. AMMOe

    AMMOe New Member

    Thanks! The Suzuki I was looking at was the truck that the local "dealer" is keeping for himself. I got to drive it and it was sweet, but a little cramped. I have a 99 or newer with the extra leg room on order. Six weeks or so till it arrives.~Andy
     
  13. GoFaster

    GoFaster Member

    Are these transmissions "the usual" for rear drive vehicles in which 5th (if equipped) is an overdrive and 4th (no matter 4-speed or 5-speed) is direct? Same axle ratios on all?

    If that's the case then this wannabe will be insisting on a 5-speed, because the one I drove on the weekend was really screaming in 4th at highway speed. I don't need rock crawling capability.
     
  14. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    See this thread for more info ----->>>>> http://www.minitrucktalk.com/showthread.php?t=2091
     
  15. GoFaster

    GoFaster Member

    Doesn't answer the question as it pertains to a Suzuki, though ...

    The Sambar and Acty don't have the "traditional" 1:1 4th gear ratio because those are transverse-engine transaxles. The input shaft is separate from the output shaft and not concentric, so you can't lock them together even if you tried. On rear-drive gearboxes, MOST of the time (but not always!), 4th just locks the input and output shafts together.
     
  16. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Moderator

    Late model Honda Acty: 5spd 6.23 3spd auto 5.75 // 5 spd ratios: 1-5,R 4.545/2.500/1.680/1.133/0.861/4.300

    i believe that in a 4 speed the ratios are the same, just no 5th.

    don't worry about 4th gear, 5th gear is a true overdrive. i have driven 4 speeds that sound like they have nothing left at 90kmh, but with a little persistence they will do 100-110kmh.
     
  17. old trucker409

    old trucker409 New Member

    99 or newer

    How are you guys getting newer models?


    all my inquires state only 98 and earlier can enter the USA.
     
  18. zbadboy

    zbadboy Member

    2003 and earlier is the current reg. Any newer and they are sneaking them in.

    Jeff
     
  19. milmor88

    milmor88 Member

    Hey Aldee, what did it take to switch it over the the 5 speed, also did you get the 5 speed with extra low? I'm guessing you would have to switch out the shifter assesmbly and maybe the driveshaft?
     
  20. matt167

    matt167 Member

    The 5spd with high/ low is very hard to find, but any of them are interchangeable as long as you stay DB, DD ect otherwise they might vary slightly... You don't need a different gear shifter and the H/L 4wd shifter would probably work with a single range 5spd.. The shift gates are basically determined by the shift cables/ levers and the transmission itself. The shifter itself has no gates and with it disconnected from the trans, you would see what I mean
     

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