Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by speedy67, Dec 15, 2007.
I presume you've seen the Locost? List of links
or the Flyin' Miata Westfield
Has anyone thought of using motorcycle powered car parts? Quaife Engineering out the UK (with an link to their site in the USA) has gearboxes and differentials used in "motorcycle powered car" racing over there.
I've always wanted to build my own M/C powered car or buggy. Maybe my Carry would make a great transplant host. I always wanted to find a way to get my Carry up to and easily maintain highway speed.
Anybody have any thoughts?
Actually, you bring up some intriquing ideas. How about using a Honda Acty as a donor for a home built, mid engine all-wheel-drive roadster? A mini-Lambo of sorts. Hmmmm.... Register it as a kit car depending on your local laws.
Why a Honda Acty? What would make it a better donor than say my Carry? Just curious. Don't know anything about the Acty. I've never seen one up close.
But interesting idea.
I forgot to add the link to Quaife
The only reason I mentioned an Acty is that you'd have a mid-rear engine configuration which would probably get you the best weight balance. With the Carry, though, I suppose you'd have the seats just in front of the rear axle (like on a Seven or Westfield) so I suppose that would work too! On the other hand, the Subaru is the only one with a true independent rear suspension...AW heck, I'd bet it would be fun no matter what you used!
And then there's the local Motorcycle Salvage yard that has a dumped, 2006 Hayabusa for US$2395 for a donor....(gurgle gurgle gurgle)
I'm watching the video thinking that looks pretty slow for a Busa powered Metro, then I read 600cc. Still cool, but not as cool as a Busa powered minitruck would be.
Here's a better one.
the only down side is the gearing , what works well for a 450 LB bike doesn't do so well for a 1500 lb car. but fun none the less!
Here is what I was told today.In the mid 70's all the way to the late 80's,Suzuki sold those 'military looking' jeep type vehicles in North America. They started off with 750cc engines,then went to 1000cc engines and finished of with 1375cc by the late 80's. These 3 variations will bolt right into a Suzuki Carry.The man that told me this seemed to know quite a bit about minitrucks and was adament about them bolting right in.Later on in the day,I was wondering about the oilpan,as these engines are slanted.Can any body confirm if this is true. One other thing! He also said that it is the whole engine and transaxle that you bolt in, A 1375cc would be rather peppy!
my buddy had one of those suzuki jeeps with the 750cc motor in it, but never could get it running.
the oil pan isn't as important as where the oil pick-up tube from the oil pump goes. i think you can turn most motors sideways if your oil will drain from the head back to the pan, and the oil pickup tube always points down.
when i was racing VW's (they are horizontally oposed) a buddy of mine continued to burn up rod and main bearings above 7000 rpms. the motor holds 3 quarts, the add-on sump helt 2 more, and even with all that and a hi volume oil pump he was starving for oil.
he cut windows in his valve covers and siliconed lexan in the holes. revved it up and guess what? the oil was loading up in the heads and not draining back to the sump fast enough. the solution was to cut a hole in the head and plumb a return line back to the sump. problem solved... that motor would rev to 9000 rpm after that.
Suzuki LJ-80 engine
I just went outside and looked at my oilpan.Your right,nothing special about it. It slants the same way as the engine. I must be able to get dimensions somewhere for the LJ-80 engine and transaxle. BUT! The man says it bolts right in. He said I could go all the way up to the 1375cc engine if I wanted!
That option would interest me greatly!
How much difference would there be in weight?
i don't think the weight would really be a problem, a good set of helper springs in the back and new coild up front and you are back in business you would deffinately have the power to pull a little extra weight.
This is very interesting. I'd like to see the results after somebody tries it. My F6A is smoking pretty bad and I wouldn't mind dropping a 1375cc instead of overhauling mine.
Want more power? Check this out! http://www.evalbum.com/1608. This is a Carry converted to ELECTRIC drive. Now that is extremely cool!
Engine Swap plus other mods.
I think these minitrucks have a lot of potential. To make a daily driver it would be nice to:
-extend the cab,that is,make it 4 to 5 inches deeper to get more leg room.
-a larger engine,to maintain highway speed,and also longevity of the powerplant. A larger engine may increase fuel economy,as it isn't working as hard.
-with the bigger engine and an extra leaf spring,one could up the capacity to 1000lb's. 1/2 ton!
My 1990 carry has 155x13 tires(previous owner). It would be nice to go to a 14" tire,if one could obtain 155x14.
I was out driving it the other day,and found that it is quite nimble in traffic. Easy to park in tight spaces etc.
Years ago, I welded up some motor mounts for a guy's Suzuki van. He converted it to electric, but could never get it thru the inspection process.
It was quiet as hell. You could never hear the thing sneaking up on you. He did a great conversion, but it was sad he couldn't get it legalized.
The guy made a helicoptor after that!
I wonder if the motor from a 2006 Honda Rinicon 4 wheeler would work?
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