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4 gears vs 5 gears? Do I have this right?

Discussion in 'Performance' started by Jerry D, Sep 5, 2009.

  1. Jerry D

    Jerry D New Member

    The trucks with 5 gears do not have a hi and low option

    Is the 5th gear an extra low gear? or is it an extra high gear or is it dependent upon the truck?

    The trucks with 4 gears have a hi and low option

    Generally if the 5th gear is a high gear a 5 gear truck would be best for the city roads/highways?

    Generally if the truck has 4 gears with hi/low the truck would not quite be as good on a highway but MUCH better in the off road?

    Am I correct in making these assumptions or does it work a little differently?
  2. MichTrucks

    MichTrucks Moderator Staff Member Supporting Member


    Older Suzuki's with 5 speed is actually a 6 gear with an extra low granny. No H/L with the older 5 speed suzuki's.

    Mitz, and Daihatsu can and do have H/L with 4 and 5 speed trans.

    Gearing and roads comment is correct with stock diameter tires. Increase to bigger tires and remember that power will be lost with the higher gear and taller tires.

    Here's my thoughts. H/L for offroad use. Remember you double the gears with that selection. And if you are going with taller tires then you really don't care about that 5th gear because you just picked it up with the taller tires.
  3. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Moderator Staff Member

    hmm maybe i got lucky then. im a 5 speed with high and low range lol.
  4. packrat

    packrat Member

  5. kansas

    kansas New Member

    5th gear

    I checked my 1999 suzuki and 5th has about 12 % over drive.
  6. Kei King

    Kei King Member

    Combinations 92-98 Suzuki DD51T:

    = 4spd with hi/low gear (located seperately on the 2wd/4wd lever)

    = 5spd

    = 5spd with extra low gear AKA "EL" (located directly on the shifter), these ones are sometimes referred to as "6spd"

    All 3 models have selectable 4wd. Top speed on 4spd is around 80km/h where as the 5spd you can get up to about 90km/h safely.
    Last edited: Mar 9, 2010
  7. Doddy

    Doddy Member

    I have a 92' carry 4spd and it has no problem hitting 110kph stock tires and a 3" lift.
    goes a little faster downhill with the wind...lol
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  8. deWinter

    deWinter New Member

    but is it screaming?
    mine will do about 85 happily, but any faster and you can tell its working. I COULD get her to hit 100, but... she dont like it. Do you have larger tires too doddy?
  9. Doddy

    Doddy Member

    my tires are 155 80 R12 i assume that is stock. i hope to get some 14's in the future.
  10. zardoz

    zardoz Member

    With 14's your gonna need a bigger downhill to get your 110 kph :D

    I only went up to 13's and lost a piece of my top end for sure, best I can do now (by the speedo) is a little less than 105... and man oh man does the little truck ever HUM with four new snowies on her LOL

  11. Doddy

    Doddy Member

    I would like to build a rack in the back that locks so i can swap street wheels vs off road. it would be nice to have a set for each, and an impact with a decent jack.
  12. binder66

    binder66 Member

    5 speed and stock tires

    I have a 1994 DD51T with a 5 speed and she will do 115 on the flat. That is if the wind is not blowing. LOL. In Wyoming the wind allways blows. If I catch a tail wind I don't notice the hills so much.

    Any head wind or a hill is VERY noticable!

    I have tried looking into a 1989-2004 geo metro 1000cc 3 cylinder and found one but untill I can find out for sure that the block is the same, I won't buy it.

    If anyone has done this conversion I would sure like any information you could share.

  13. Vitnzjp

    Vitnzjp Member

    14' rims does not mean bigger tires in diameter :)
  14. Ironraven

    Ironraven Active Member

    Or you could just get DOT ATV tires like I did and then you can go offroad and onroad with the same set of wheels :D

    If you want to lock a set of wheels in the back you can just make a simple rack and then use a chain with a padlock... and I believe there are a few guys who have made bumpers that double as air tanks. Not sure how safe that is but...
  15. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

  16. MiniBrutes

    MiniBrutes Member

    Metro block is not the same.....
  17. BigJoel

    BigJoel Member

    Please elaborate on these tires. I have been looking for something like this without much luck.
  18. binder66

    binder66 Member

    metro block change over

    Mini brutes,

    Thank you for the info. I understood both were f6a blocks but did not want to invest and find it would not work.
  19. Ironraven

    Ironraven Active Member

    Check out my build/adventure thread... the company is EFX they have two types of DOT certified ATV tires. One is super aggressive and 26" so not really suited for the "average" mini truck. I'm using their 24x10R14 tires. They aren't the most amazing trail tires but they do all right in the mud and are reasonable on the road too.


    My Build Thread
  20. BigJoel

    BigJoel Member

    But alas, they are bias ply.. I drive my truck every day, so i need something that is going to last. I guess i'm just stuck with the winter tires. That wheel and tire combo on your truck is sick though. I would really like to have something similar on mine.
  21. Ironraven

    Ironraven Active Member

    Nope, mine are radials :) You have to get 14" wheels and they're radial, the 12" are bias ply.
  22. BigJoel

    BigJoel Member

    I must have over looked those. Def going to check into that now! Thanks!
  23. Ironraven

    Ironraven Active Member

    You're welcome! You'll need a bit of lift and maybe some spacers (or rims with negative offset) to get them to fit and probably do a bit of trimming but it's worth it! :pop:

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