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Supercharged Kei trucks

Discussion in 'General Truck Info' started by Dmscar, Jun 30, 2019.

  1. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    Ive been seeing here and there where some of the members here have supercharged Kei trucks. I was wondering are these hard to come by?

    I don’t mind waiting but is it realistic to actually find a truck with a supercharger. I’m currently not impartial to any one brand but would love it being super/turbo charged.
     
  2. ttc

    ttc Active Member

    subaru can have supercharged 4 cylinder engine
     
  3. cmoore

    cmoore New Member

    Sambar to Sambar, the supercharger makes a big difference. I have a 94natty and a 90SC, The SC is just hands down better on any kind of hill.

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  4. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    Those vans are awesome! For what you described with hills is exactly why I want one with a supercharger!

    Are the supercharger trucks are to find?
     
  5. ttc

    ttc Active Member

    There is an 05 at auction now
     
  6. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    I’ll have to find one that will fall under the 25 year limit so I can make it street legal and semi daily drive it along with my two motorcycles.

    I plan to search for a good while for a supercharger one or turbo and if I can’t seem to find one I’ll just get a regular clean truck.
     
  7. matt167

    matt167 Active Member

    The only trucks are the Sambar's and VERY rare. I saw a supercharged Suzuki Carry on Beforward but it was 2wd and it was not stock. I'm pretty sure it was the SC from a Sambar stuck on it.
     
  8. RUFRYDUR

    RUFRYDUR New Member

    I have a Supercharged Sambar. It was very hard to come by but they are out there if you are patient.
     
  9. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    That makes sense, I’ll probably just focus on finding a low mileage rust “free” 1994 Suzuki Carry and if I find a supercharged sambar in the process then sill buy that instead.

    I just hope all the mini truck dealers don’t buy out all the good trucks before I can find a good one.
     
  10. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    Sambar the only thing is the supercharged models are EFI not carbureted, they hold speed better on hills than carbureted version though. otherwise the 10-12hp gain isnt going to be whopping

    Carry have a turbo model as well, you can feel more pull when you get into higher RPM
     
  11. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    That’s a really good point about the not outstanding I owed difference, granted the hill climbing could be beneficial here in the Rocky Mountains.

    I honestly didn’t know the Carry could come with a. Turbo! That would be ideal, a 1994 Suzuki carry truck with round headlights and a turbo. I hope I can find one.

    Maximal how much was your truck?
     
  12. fmartin_gila

    fmartin_gila Active Member

    Just for info. I own a 2002 Suzuki Carryvan with K6A Natural Aspirated engine, built in Nov of 2001. My friend down the street has the same with a K6A Turbocharged Intercooled engine in it, manufactured about 4 months before mine so is a 2001 year. Not really much difference in performance where we are at sea level. Mine is plain jane basic w 5 spd and his is upgraded with very nice interior and 3rd row seat so weighs a bit more and the automatic transmission probably degrades his performance some too.

    Fred
     
  13. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    Yep Carry had a turbo model



    Mine was close to $7000 shipped to my door through Brian with B-Pro in Calgary, it's the first JDM vehicle I didnt import privately myself and it went well, absolutely no rust, the box was mint no dents or scratches, and only 40,000km

    I would definitely be interested to see how well the supercharged sambar hold speed on Hills compared to the carbureted version, my carb one I can do 120 on the highway all day long but with headwind or a hill, I'm stuck flooring at 80
     
  14. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    Nice about yours and you friends trucks!

    I actually just watched that video! It gave me hope, granted $7k is a little steep for me personally and Hope to get a regular carry with shipping and port fees closer to $3-4K like a few others mentioned that did.

    Is those speeds in the headwind with a supercharged truck or regular?

    That’s one thing I’m very interested in knowing because here in Colorado there’s some pretty steep mountains I will be climbing and I really hope the little truck will make it up without being in anyone’s way.
     
  15. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    regular carbureted, you can definitely get a basic 4x4 model for cheaper than a turbo. turbo Carry and Sambar with a supercharger or locking diffs go for more at auction than basic ones

    i did a 1200km trip flat highway in winter and could maintain 120kmh no problem, 2 years back i went to the mountains in Jasper here my profile pic is, some of the hills floored i was stuck going 70-80 max but its far and inbetween
     
  16. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    Thanks for the info! Do you know how much more a truck with locking rear diff could cost me? That’s a feature I’d like to have since the truck is small enough to fit on a lot of trails here too.

    That’s good to know about the long trip you took! That’s not bad for the hills. What altitudes were you taking it to in jasper?

    I plan to take it quite often between 5k feet to 12k feet above sea level. Sadly the main highway from Colorado to Moab Utah runs through a mountain and the road peaks to 12-13k feet at one point which may be struggle for the truck.
     
  17. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    about 1060M there, auctions are super hit and miss but diff lock models usually end up being $1000ish more i believe and theyre harder to find
     
  18. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    How did you feel after that adventure since I know driving a mini truck isn’t like driving a super comfortable vehicle.

    Oh okay, around $1k or slightly more wouldn’t be a huge issue. I’ll just have to keep my eye out since they are harder to find.
     
  19. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    Winter highways rough, I did 1200km in -30c in a blizzard, the front panel has no insulation/engine so in the winter wind your feet get cold. Otherwise ive daily driven it in winter -30c no problem

    Summers fine, it's not as comfy as a Lexus but its doable for 3-5hr trips at a time. I dont have diff locks just 4x4 and I've drive through 3ft of snow and water no issues, rock crawling I'd be most concerned about having diff locks
     
  20. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    I’m very happy you brought up your cold weather experience! This is the kind of thing you can’t easily get info on. That’s very cold! So that means that the winters here in Colorado will be doable.

    I’ve been driving my motorcycles this past winter since being here and the coldest I’ve driven my dualsport ( street legal dirtbike ) was 14F with snow all around and wasn’t that bad. But a blizzard at -30c would be terrible.

    Yeah I don’t think I’ll be rock climbing per se but definitely rocky trails for sure. Like Jeep trails.

    I plan to take within 3-7 hour trips so that’s very encouraging!
     
  21. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    For winter I just use a oil pan heater, its always been fine to -30c but when it hit -40c last winter, I had to bring a booster pack around because if it didnt start in that cold within 10 seconds cranking the battery was dead. In 4wd with winter tires I've never managed to get stuck
     
  22. Dmscar

    Dmscar Member

    That’s very smart about using the oil pan heater and the point about the battery is pretty spot on. I almost killed my dualsport a tiny battery trying to start on that 14f day so if they die then I’m sure it’ll be that way but a lot worse on the crazy temps you have there. I know with windchill on that 14F I had I was going about 55 with just hand covers and a winter one piece suit which usually anything above 25f feels fine but that day the windchill was roughly -12f so it was getting cold.

    I’ll be taking your ideas for when It gets cold here on my way to ski slopes and most like snow track dirt biking in the back country trails assuming they don’t get closed.

    On a side note, I’m from Georgia here in America and I never saw more than a couple decent snow falls until moving to Colorado. It cracks me up because the cold doesn’t bother me nor does the snow but when I tell Colorado people who were born and raised here they can’t imagine how I ride in it.
     
  23. Jigs-n-fixtures

    Jigs-n-fixtures Well-Known Member

    I’ve got a shore power set up on my Hijet, which feeds heater pads on the oil pan, transmission, transfer case, and transmission, And, I have a pad under the battery, and a maintenance charger hard wired.

    The extension cord I feed it with, is hooked to a timer to turn it on at 0400, and a thermostatic switch. He fires right up, even at 25 below, and away we go plowing snow.
     
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  24. Maximal

    Maximal Active Member

    ive debated swapping the pencil post terminals for regular ones and relocating a larger sized battery under the drivers seat, the only winter issue i cant get around is the clutch cable gets wet sometimes in a puddle during the day and freezes overnight then in the morning the clutch pedals frozen until it thaws out in the cold

    are the pads siliconed on? i debated doing those but i was scared offroading they would get ripped off, i just got a magnetic heater and put it half on the engine oil pan and half near by the trans to heat both oils up overnight then take it off
     
  25. Jigs-n-fixtures

    Jigs-n-fixtures Well-Known Member

    They are the silicone ones. I put them kind of up on the side of the pan, and transmission body. The Hijets have a crossmember a bit lower than the engine which protects the bottom of the pan. So far so good.

    I switched over to a larger standard battery the first year I had my Hijet. Roughly twice the cold cranking amps, I have a higher output alternator sitting in a box in the shop.

    Need to install it soon, and set up some extra lights. I added up the watts on the lights, and they will draw more amps than the 35-amp stock alternator will produce.
     
  26. mrxsht

    mrxsht Member

    I can't reply so the subject(s) ,because I don't know anything! but I do have a question¿?
    what is the proper size of turbo for a stock EF 659cc engine?
    and is a VZ21 too small ,or just rite?
     
  27. matt167

    matt167 Active Member

    VZ21 is what most of the Kei Suzuki's run if they are turbo.. Well, they run RHB 31's which is what the VZ 21 is a copy of
     
  28. mrxsht

    mrxsht Member

    cool. then I'm on the right track. that's what I bought. . thank you.
     
  29. mrxsht

    mrxsht Member

    Can you turbo boost a stock 659cc EF-CS engine?
     
  30. Jigs-n-fixtures

    Jigs-n-fixtures Well-Known Member

    You can turbo or supercharge any engine. But a low compression engine is going to get more results, because the relatively larger combustion chamber means the charge and put a larger volume of air-fuel into combustion chamber, and thus make more power at a given boost.
     

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