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right hand drive sticker and police

Discussion in 'News and Site Support' started by packrat, Jul 23, 2009.

  1. packrat

    packrat Member

    Just a heads up in Toronto. I was stopped this morning by one of Metros finest. First thing he said was "nice truck" Then he proceeded to give me a $110 ticket for not having a sticker saying that the vehicle is a right hand drive. No warning or anything. When I asked him what this sticker was supposed to look like, he had no idea, or what it should say on it, or where to find this information. Now I have to spend time in court and hopefully get it thrown out. Glad he had time to do this for me taking time out of his busy schedule at the donut shop
     
  2. packrat

    packrat Member

    Just looked up the Ontario highway traffic act, and buried way down in it is the following.

    " Every vehicle that is equipped with a right hand drive shall, unless it is equipped with a mechanical or electrical signal device as described in subsection 142 (6), have prominently displayed on the rear thereof, in bold face letters of not less than 50 millimetres in height and of a colour which is in contrast to that of the vehicle, the words,

    “RIGHT HAND DRIVE VEHICLE”.



    Be warned, they will come looking for you.
     
  3. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Moderator

    this is completely unfounded, but my guess is to alert other drivers that you have different blind spots than the "normal" cars on the road. do i think it's ridiculous? yes. do i understand how it might help avoid an accident? yes.
     
  4. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Moderator

    i just cracked my second beer in the last 3 hours, so i know i'm still thinking clearly... it will be more clear in a couple hours when i'm done with my 6er though.

    have you made a left turn? how bad is that for blind spots? my blind spots were no worse than in a LHD vehicle but when you consider you have a different vantage point while there are blind spots, they are different blind spots.

    adn your idea about the police knowing which side to approach is valid. when i got pulled over they approached my wife and then came around to my side. so it may be a driving safety thing as well as police safety thing.

    but these are just the thoughts of a dumb welder who is a high school drop out... no master's degree to cloud my judgement, i just calls them how i sees them :D
     
  5. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Active Member Staff Member

    that is the stupidest ticket i have every heard of!!! you would think that would be on the safety inspection checklist then.

    can you link us to the online source? Also do you think they would enforce that to out of province trucks?
     
    Last edited: Jul 23, 2009
  6. confuzed

    confuzed Member

    Just a thought..... industrial type trucks Grarbage ect have that notice on them but i didn't think they would carry it to our little trucks.What next? a slow moving triangle when i go out on the highway?
     
  7. packrat

    packrat Member

    Well, another day, and I'm heading off again. Still haven't put a sticker on the truck. I just hope they don't tazer me as a repeat offender. Actually, I'm wondering if there's enough room on the tailgate for the sticker, what with all the stock stickers there.
     
  8. misterturbo

    misterturbo Silver Supporting Member

    You do realize that this is a bogus ticket that the OPP are willfully giving??

    A lot of my customers have been getting this bogus ticket this year in Ontario.

    Why is it bogus? In that law, it tells you to refer to subsection 142 (6).. If you read that subsection:

    "(6) A mechanical or electrical signal device shall clearly indicate the intention to turn, shall be visible and understandable during day-time and night-time from the front and from the rear of the vehicle for a distance of 30 metres, and shall be self-illuminated when used at any time from one-half hour after sunset to one-half hour before sunrise. R.S.O. 1990, c. H.8, s. 142 (6)."

    Sooo.. Unless you have a RHD from the 1900s which doesn't have an electrical turn signal (ie. light) than you wouldn't be applicable to this law.

    The OPP KNOW this is bogus because each of these cops have the traffic law book in their cruiser. Its just a tactic to annoy RHD owners.. Which will backfire huge when the judges go ballistic when these cases eventually hit the courts.

    My suggestion, which my customers now follow is to photocopy this section/subsection from the highway traffic law book (in the library or purchase the book itself) and throw it in the cops face next time you get a ticket.
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2009
  9. thefuzz783

    thefuzz783 Member

    " Every vehicle that is equipped with a right hand drive shall, unless it is equipped with a mechanical or electrical signal device as described in subsection 142 (6), have prominently displayed on the rear thereof, in bold face letters of not less than 50 millimetres in height and of a colour which is in contrast to that of the vehicle, the words, RIGHT HAND DRIVE VEHICLE."

    Yep, what misterturbo said....the key word in that law is "unless". It essentially says if you have a RHD that does not have turn signals, then you must have the sticker.

    But obviously all mini trucks have turn signals, unless yours has been modified, so the law does not apply.
     
  10. packrat

    packrat Member

    I didn't get time to find the subsection last night, so thanks for finding it. By the way, it wasn't the OPP, it was Toronto's finest who felt like standing out in the rain yesterday morning. I will take a copy of the law with me however when I take it down to court.
     
  11. larryn2o

    larryn2o Member

    mine is a one seat truck , so would i need two stickers?



    if you don't mind being called a Cajun , you could move down here. we have micro lobsters! and you can drive anything!
     
  12. They are afraid the other drivers will PANIC when they see just a "PASSENGER" in a moving vehicle WITHOUT a driver...:rolleyes::D

    OR WORSE they will think they are being "PUNKED"...:D
     
  13. misterturbo

    misterturbo Silver Supporting Member

    Interestingly enough, I got pulled over today by a cop who proceeded to tell me that I didn't have a RHD sticker on the back and that it was required.. I told him that that law only applies to vehicles without mechanical or electric indicators and he said "I don't know anything about that" and dropped that topic like a hot potato.

    However he did decide to give me a different ticket..
     
  14. Ravk

    Ravk Member

    I had a friend on the "passenger side" playing with a steering wheel he bought at garage sale. Scared the hell out of the guy driving a big truck beside us when he yelled and held up whe wheel with a scared expression on his fase. Priceless!!!
    Here in Alberta, I have been stopped twice. Once to see if it really was registered, and another time for the steering wheel stunt (the truck driver was a cop, still priceless!)

    Robert
     
  15. BC_MMC

    BC_MMC Member

    So in BC we have to have yearly inspections on these. Guess where the inspector puts the sticker, on the right hand side of the windshield partway down.
    If I wasn't 6' 2" it would be right in my line of vision.
     
  16. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Moderator

    you mean like this??
     
  17. Ravk

    Ravk Member

    Yep, just like that!
     
  18. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Active Member Staff Member

    I have been SO tempted to get a fake wheel and do that!
     
  19. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Active Member Staff Member

    so any updates on this bogus ticket/law they are pushing on you ontario guys?
     
  20. packrat

    packrat Member

    So far no more tickets, even without a sticker. I wasn't able to have the ticket thrown out because the prosecutors were on strike in Toronto. Now I have to wait (and wait) for a court date in Toronto to have the whole thing thrown out. What a system.
     

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