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Legal to drive on roads

Discussion in 'General Truck Info' started by kmoneil, Jun 3, 2007.

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  1. kmoneil

    kmoneil Administrator Staff Member

    Why is it that these trucks are not legal to drive on the road and that goofy smart car that is about 2 feet wide and its "US Safety approved"?
     
  2. larryn2o

    larryn2o Member

    drive

    there are quite a few on the road here . we just have to get the hyway patrole to inspect it ($75) and apply for a clear title.
    not sure how long it will go on ? our GOV! just vetoed a bill to alow ATV's to use the road!
     
  3. kmoneil

    kmoneil Administrator Staff Member

    Thats awesome that you can drive them on the roads. I'm in Gilbert Arizona and my neighbor has a Gator and he got a tag, but I was told that you could not get a mini truck tagged .. but that was here say I really need to check with the AZ MVD to verify.
     
  4. larryn2o

    larryn2o Member

    tag for truck

    what if it was tagged in an other state ? then resold?
     
  5. kmoneil

    kmoneil Administrator Staff Member

    I know that if you live in Arizona that you have 6 months to take your vehicles, or they fine you. They even setup a rat on you neighbor program ($500 reward), thats how desperate they are to make you get an AZ tag. I need to check with the MVD though.
     
  6. JRinTX

    JRinTX Moderator

    Registering trucks in Texas

    This is a great thread. We all need to investigate and share info on how to license these trucks for use on the roads. Being able to drive these on roads would be a giant selling point (even if they were only allowed on secondary roads). It would set mini trucks even further apart from UTVs. And think of the gas mileage!!
    I know of a guy in Texas that has registered one and I have been told that Mississippi and South Dakota allow them to be driven. I realize that there are limitations. For instance, I would never take off down Interstate 10 to Houston! :eek: But, for running around town they would be great. And they are safer than a motorcycle.
    What do ya'll think or know about registering these trucks?
     
  7. mark06

    mark06 New Member

    for real though i just bought one of these trucks and am in the process of getting a bonded title. if anyone knows anything about the laws on legalizing one of them, please tell me. thanks
     
  8. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

    As a dealer I am concerned about this.
    Sure I sell them as off-road only, but then the customer goes out and bypasses the speed restrictor and finds a way to get a tag for it. (don't know how when these things don't have a US standard VIN). But then they drive it on the road. Sooner or later someone is going to get hurt/killed in one of the trucks on the road, and US Customs is going to put a halt to them, and stop allowing them into the US. And as soon as you bypass the speed restrictor, you violate EPA regulations. With all the GREEN people out there, this would be a great topic for them to jump on and get us shut down......

    Just my opinion.
     
  9. larryn2o

    larryn2o Member

  10. larryn2o

    larryn2o Member

    i do agree with abcminitrucks. if tomany folks break the laws ( we tend to think of them as recommendations here) it will cause a backlash. on the other hand we need to do something! i just filled up my geo metro & it cost me $32.00.
    these trucks have been on the street here for 8 or 9 years . long before this fad started. a 2 WD sells for $2,995 & it cost about $100 to get one tagged. and if you stay off the 4 lane it gets better mileage than my metro.
    i'm not sure what the tipping point is . but i'm sure one day it may all stop.
     
  11. kmoneil

    kmoneil Administrator Staff Member

    I just was wondering about the taggin them, but really I would use it off road most of the time anyways, there is so many things they could be used for. A better choice than a gator, rhino and the others that I don't even know.
     
  12. mark06

    mark06 New Member

    I understand your concerns (abcminitrucks) however, do you think that a mini truck is any more dangerous than a motorcycle on the road. By this i dont mean to state that i think that a minitruck should be taken on the interstate or any major thoroughfair. Im just looking to go back and forth to work (here in town) and save money on gas. So, yes it concerns me also should any problems arise in the future regarding the minitruck and its legalities.
     
  13. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

    Mark06,

    It's not really up to me to decide how dangerous they are. It is federal Law that they are not street legal. I suggest to call your congressman and make this argument to him/her. The way I look at it, if it is not any more dangerous than a motorcyle, then buy a motocycle and drive it on the road.

    One other difference, is when you remove the speed restrictors that were place on them in Japan, and approved by customs as they passed into the US, you no longer meet EPA regulations. Motorcyles all meet EPA regulations without being speed restricted.

    Don't take this the wrong way, I am not trying to be negative, just trying to save my business.

    Yesterday I noticed just about a mile from my shop, there is another guy with one of the trucks sitting by the road for sale. He has removed all the restictors and is selling it as a street legal vehicle. He is selling them from his house in a subdivision.....these guys are going to kill us legitimate dealers and ruin it for everyone else.
    Luckily he thinks there is allot of profit in these vehicles and he has this one priced way too high.
     
  14. ATVtruck.com

    ATVtruck.com New Member

    US Cutoms and Border Patrol allows these trucks to be imported because we importers acknowledge they will be sold and used as off road. NHTSA (National Highway Transportation Saftey Admistration) is going to tell on us. When that happens the US CBP will be pissed. They will cut off the imports or tax the heck out of them or go retroactive on the import taxes. Please do not discuss these as being used on road. Those of you posting info on how to get them tagged are going to cause problems. Please do not do it.
     
  15. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

    I have to agree....you guys are cutting your own throats...and taking us with you.
     
  16. wolv1001

    wolv1001 New Member

    Sorry to say guys I think the cat is out of the bag,here in Michigan they are all over the roads. I have read that the feds are eventually going to take dot $ away from the states who allow them on the road.Also there are dealers here that are selling 2003's and up with no restrictors that is a double no no.
     
  17. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

    How are they getting them tagged and titled when they do not have a valid VIN? How are they getting them insured. Does Michigan require insurance to get your license plate?

    Just seems that there is some seriously underhanded paperwork going on....bordering on FRAUD.

    Wait till someone gets killed or seriously hurt in one of these trucks, the Sh** will hit the fan then.
     
  18. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

  19. wolv1001

    wolv1001 New Member

    There are many other states that tag them,Indiana,Ohio,Missouri to name a few. Here in Michigan it is no differant than tagging a homemade dune buggy or hot rod car. There is a certain company that will issue a cert of insurance on these vehicles. I totally see your point that federal law say's you can't drive them on the road,but I think alot of people think well if my state will plate it then it's o.k. In the end the fed's will educate the states and there will be no mini's on the road. just my 2 cents.
     
  20. abcminitrucks

    abcminitrucks Member

    Yep, Its gonna come down sooner or later....so all you people that are thinking about buying one, better hurry up.

    I guess I will start looking for some other forms of retirement income.
     
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