Are there any hijet owners out there with a scissor lift. ? Im trying to convert my and I could really use a few pictures of how the dump/lift levers mount to the truck frame. I don't have any place to mount them , so something will need to be fabricated
Jim, I will try to get you some pics of mine this weekend! In the meantime, Jigs, also has a scissor lift, I'm sure he can add to it with his knowledge and info, and maybe pics! Limestone
That would be much appreciated. I have the scissor lift mounted .But those levers mount to the frame by the front post. I to think they would have be lower than than the top of the post, but I would really like to see a picture of it. I would like to make sure it's right, being that I'm going to be standing on the raised bed. Thanks jim
Jim, I hope this works for you. I wanted to try to get you something to work with. Let me know if you need more as my picture skills, need improvement, and this old dinosaur is working around some pic. disabilities! LOL!
Thanks so much for the the photos. Im still having a hard time seeing what I need. Can I get a side view shot of the post with the lever mounted to it. Here's a shot of right side post with the lever next to it. I have no way to mount the lever to the post. Will have to Fab something. My levers look different then yours.
Jim, 1407, and 1409, are side views, but heck yeah, I'll try to get you some more, better ones! lol When I get back out there later! I kinda figured that you might need some more! No problem! Limestone
Limestone Really appreciate it. The truck has the post that the bed used to attach to. Now I'm trying to attach the lever to it. They don't seem to fit, almost like I would have to cut into the top of the post. Before I start cutting into to it, just trying to see how yours are mounted. . Maybe your post is different. If yours is a factory scissors , maybe your post/pillar came different to accommodate the levers?
I already crossed the line of being a pain, but I'll ask anyway. I'm missing the rear latch. I have a side picture, but is there a chance you can snap a picture of the front view also. I was hoping jigs and fixtures would get in on this also. So limestone is getting all the burden. Limestone it's much appreciated
Jim, That's what were here for! Really, it's good to know your appreciative! Gonna send more pics! I hope these help! No questions are stupid, or over, burdening! Limestone
Jim, There's a piece of U channel, or C channel, standing upright, and bolted to the post that your referencing to! In pic 1415, it probably shows it best! 1416, also shows it at another angle! 1417, shows the post and the channel that I'm talking about, that's bolted to the post! I went out and grabbed a few more, I hope they help! Limestone
Jim, Jigs, added some very good technical, info and advice. His pics should also help. Keep us posted, and let us know how it's going. The scissor lifts are very handy! Limestone
I want to thank both you guys for your help. The pictures you posted really helped me out I bolted a piece of angle iron next to the post/pillar/towers to mount the levers to. I had to notch a little piece out of the top of post to get the levers to be in the right place. I see in the pictures that your posts are different. I also fabbed a rear latch. Not going to win a beauty contest but works well. I'm getting a hydraulic pump delivered Tuesday. Im anticipating some problems with the fittings. Probably metric fittings on the cylinder and hose and us fittings on the pump. Thanks again for the help. I'll keep you posted. I'm sure I'll have see some more questions for you . I have a few already,lol.
That's great news, Jim! Just one more thing! Don't know if you have one or not, but a safety brace is always a good idea to have in case you have to raise the bed, dump, or scissor! So it doesn't come down and kill you some day! I've heard of too many of those accidents over the yrs. One I even knew a long time ago! Limestone
A safety brace is a good idea. I've been using a 4x4 post. But I need to come up with something more convenient Is there a way to put to he safety brace on when you're up in the lift. I wouldn't want to come crashing down when up in the lift either
I have a piece of channel, cut to length, which rests between the top of the cylinder, and the knuckle on the end of the rod when I have the cylinder at full extension. I have couple of Velcro straps on it to keep it in place. I run the cylinder all the way up, and then release the pressure to set it down on the rest.
Limestone is right... it's not just a good idea, it is essential. hydraulic seals eventually fail and sometimes they fail suddenly. I lost a friend who knew he should always use a jack stand, but got in a hurry one day, and that was the day he was crushed by the truck he was under when the jack failed.
Definitely something I will add Hey, I had another question for you guys. I have 4 tabs, 2 on each side, on the side of the lift. I'm not sure of there function. I was thinking of maybe using them for outriggers. You guys have the same tabs on yours?
They are for the fenders, because with the lift, the stock ones built into the bed don’t do much good with the bed raised by the frame assembly. The thing on the left of the bottom fender is the factory wheel chock. If you look, you can see the cleaner, unfaded spots where the fenders bolted to the tabs. I pulled mine off, and replaced them with boat trailer fenders, about $70 off eBay. With my wider tires, the fenders were a couple of inches too narrow, to keep mud and snow flying in the air, with my larger tires and wheels. As for outriggers, I built the ugly bumpers with 2-inch receivers in the ends to allow me to use the longest trailer tongue jacks I could find as the outriggers. I think these are the jacks: CURT 28358 Weld-On Pipe-Mount Swivel Trailer Jack 5,000 lbs, 15-1/2 Inches Vertical Travel https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QEH1T4/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_BW4IEb9PXXNS8 With the mounts welded onto a plate welded to the end of the 2-inch square tube. Link to the weld-on: CURT 28931 Replacement Swivel Jack Male Pipe Mount, 9/16-Inch Pin Hole https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004QEM7QG/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_M24IEbXT9CA70 I used the tube which the stock outriggers had to go into the crosstube in the frame, As part of the bumper bracket. The rusty plate is welded to the tube, and put through a hole drilled into the channel, that the mount is made of. This gives the bracket a direct tie into the frame, and the bolts serve to keep things from rotating. I think the bolts are M10s, might be M8s, screwed into nutserts in the frame.
Here's what's on mine. Very similar to past dump truck, I've owned or had something to do with! Pretty close to what a safety brace is on a piece of equipment, the main difference would be, vertical, like a dump truck, verses horizontal, on equipment! Direction, really doesn't matter, as long as it's supporting, the weight! Both good previous points. I have done similar to what Jig's is saying, on many occasions, to support whatever I was working on! It only takes one time, if it slips or something let's go, your a goner, possibly! The yellow, metal tube, is supported up against a channel cross member, that has a bend in it, that I plan on fixing, straightening, or reinforcing! Then, when not in use, it simply folds down out of the way, and clips into the clip in front of the yellow brace, and is always there when needed! I'm glad to hear that your at least using a 4x4! Stay Safe! Limestone
These are the Fenders I made up, and mounted them as Jig's said to those tabs! I used 3/8 rod couplers, with washers, and SAE hex bolts! Some of the few non metric bolts on the darn thing! I had the material, and I chose to do those right away as, they make for very convenient tool shelf's while working on her! The thing that is nice about those plastic boat trailer fenders, is that as the mud sticks on, as it dries it falls of from vibration, and what not. We had the same issue with rubber tire backhoes in the mud a lot. With the metal fenders, that mud would get so thick, that it would actually start to bind up the machine! When they came out with plastic fenders, we thought we died and went to heaven! I'll probably wind up rubbing white vinegar on them, to etch them, and then paint them, the camo color,(hunting) that I'm after, once I'm that far along!
Jim, You've got me wondering. What kind of outriggers are you thinking about, and for what? To possible stabilize the unit when you lift it in the air? If that's the case then them little tabs won't wanna have anything to do with any kind of stabilizers! Remember, these thing when lifted are skinny and narrow, and if top heavy, and not on flat ground, all the more reason your stabilizer idea would come in handy! Iv'e had a lot of experience with different stabilizers and so called outriggers, for stabilization. I guess in my mind I'm picturing a small, yet simple, portable, pin on and take off stabilizer, but you'd have to work off the frame on the side, to be of any use! HMMMMM! Gonna chew on that one a while! All this, chewin! I'm glad dinner is over! LOL! Limestone
The factory outriggers that came with my truck were a kind of weak looking screw jack, that were mounted to the end of a tube, which went into the cross tube at the back of the frame. It looked kind of spindly to me, and thus the ugly bumpers, and long extension tongue jacks.
Thanks guys for the info. It's great bouncing ideas off of scissors lift owners. You both have some pretty good experience and knowledge. It makes sense about removing the fenders from the body. I heard that standing in the bed when it's fully raised can feel pretty wobbling and outriggers can help. I've never seen them, but they sound like they could be helpful. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Right now I have the scissor lift mounted and the latches worked out. I should be getting the hydraulic pump in pretty soon. I've been lifting it with a electric winch to work on the latches. Probably will have some problems with the fittings. The cylinder will probably be metric, the pump fittings US A bunch of small battles, hope I win this war. But I do have a great support system.
Jim, I think they might all be AN fittings. Not sure on that though. So be careful hooking things up. Amazon has a pretty good selection of conversion fittings from standard to metric, to AN, and every combo. the other good source is the online shops that support racers, such as Jegs.
Any kind of STABILIZATION would always be good! You can always add any kind of stabilizers that your imagination would dream up! That's the beauty of all this! Remember, wider is better! You have several options. Just keep it safe, practical, and affordable if possible!