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Found company w/ Diff Locker conversion kit for 90's carrys! Need your help.

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by Wheelie, Jun 26, 2017.

  1. Wheelie

    Wheelie Member

    I inquired about adding a locker conversion to my 95 carry DD51T from a company called Phantom Grip. Here is their response.

    "This model seems so similar to the DB series.
    Do you happen to have access to the differential?
    We just need some info from the diff to see which part # exactly it is.

    Let me know if you do have access to the diff and I can send you a spec sheet of what we need."

    There you have it. I am wondering if anyone has access to a differential out of one of our trucks where we could get part numbers? Any help would allow us guys without lockers to easily add them without buttons or air lines. If not I will take mine apart but was hoping someone here would have that information? Lets do this guys!
  2. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    Is there a tag on one of the bolts? Casting number?
  3. Wheelie

    Wheelie Member

    There is Im sure but Im not really wanting to tear into mine until Im able to confirm they have one. I guess Ill crawl around tonight and see if I can get an axle part number and see how it compares to the newer trucks.
  4. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    I'd like a rear and front for my 91 DB511
  5. matt167

    matt167 Active Member

    Someone with a DB51 truck compare part numbers at www.partsouq.com I don't have a chassis number to bring up the DA diagrams.

    BTW some OEM parts are available this way
  6. harley rose

    harley rose Member

    Wheelie : Where are you at on this ??? :) I own a 95 DD51T as well & would love to get a locker !!!
  7. WestEndAngler

    WestEndAngler Member

  8. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    OK What was the cost?

    And what chassis number?
  9. WestEndAngler

    WestEndAngler Member

    Click the link I gave you. Find out for yourself.

    SAITCHO Member

    Do you know what kind of machining was required and more importantly is it any good offroading?
  11. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    I did and I don't understand what I will need to look for on the diffs?
    And yes is it worth it?
  12. WestEndAngler

    WestEndAngler Member

    I spoke to the people at Traction Concepts and confirmed my truck (DB52T) would work. They said yes. I haven't noticed much of a difference between my DB51T and the DB52T in terms of the axle itself. Traction Concepts claims they have had good results for the end user. I have not had a chance to test mine. I just installed tracks and will not be back to tires until after hunting season in March.

    During my research I found a video but cannot locate it anymore. The one truck with the LSD went straight up the hill, the other had issues. My mechanic had to machine the gears to make everything fit. The directions say to "grind" the gears or use a lathe... We clearly opted to be more precise with the differential gears and used the lathe.

    Directions attached.

    If you have further questions I would suggest contacting Traction Concepts and ask them. They have a website too.

    Attached Files:

  13. Cole

    Cole Member

  14. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    My understanding on my DB51t is that the front end IS a straight axel with the Diff Lock Button on the dash!
    My front end has the plates over the axels making it live and there is a Vacuum line going to the front end! Air Locker?
  15. Cole

    Cole Member

    No factory front axle has difflock. The difflock button locks up the rear and the axle lock button connects the front driveshaft to the front axle it doesn't lock the front axle. If it did you would never be able to steer with the front locked up. When I run tracks in the winter I can spin 3 tracks but never 4. So I am always dragging one track. In order to steer you always rely on the inside wheel spinning slower than the outside. But with tracks in the snow this wouldn't be as big of a problem. If I could lock all 4 together I would never get stuck! It would be like a tank!
    Last edited: Jun 6, 2018
  16. Cole

    Cole Member

    Unfortunate the vacuum line in the front isn't for a locker. It just connects the drive shaft in. So when you are not in 4 wheel drive you don't have to spinn the driveshaft. This is very common on domestic vehicles as well. A front locker would only ever be for off road use. And I doubt they exist for these trucks since they are exactly as popular as a jeep or a chev.
  17. KCCats

    KCCats Member

    I can certainly feel the front tires lock and cant turn nearly as sharp,
    and on gravel any way I turn 3?
  18. WestEndAngler

    WestEndAngler Member

    Rear only.

    Your comments above regarding axle lock are correct as well.
  19. Cole

    Cole Member

    Ya that's what I figured. Do you notice any limitation not having a locked up front end with the Mattracks? Now I do get into some rough situations several feet of sugary snow and steepish hills. It's always that one track in the front not spinning that gets me. Thanks.
  20. WestEndAngler

    WestEndAngler Member

    I live in Texas. If I need tracks for snow the state has much larger problems LOL.

    I have not put it through the paces. I will mainly use mine for duck hunting & in the ponds. Everything is dry now.

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