What is do-able? (within reason) I've thought about the Suzuki Swift engine.(Chevy Sprint - Pontiac Firely) 1 Litre or 1.3 L? Turboed even? Would it basically be a bolt-in? How about the engine Arctic Cat uses in their four-strole snowmobile? 600 cc - turbocharged....110 HP, that'll give her some ZIP!!
That would be interesting..... When you mention Suzuki Swift are you refering to the same motors that are in Geo Metro's? Stock hp in a Geo is barely over 50 hp.
I don't know much about these little Suzuki-based cars, but given their larger displacement (more torque) and fuel injection, wouldn't they be an attractive option to replace a weak or dying Carry engine? ESPECIALLY a TURBOED version? Arctic Cat pulls 100 HP out of just a 660 cc engine in a snowmobile!!!
Geo metro was only a 3 cylinder 1000cc. Suzuki Swift came with 4 cylinder 1300cc also available with a 16V producing 100hp. I love engine swaps! I especially love sleepers!
This kind of thing does sound interesting, especially if they would readily bolt on. My only concern would be, especially given the Metro 1.0 and 1.3 engines, would be if the gearing in the Carry would allow it. Off road would be no big deal, but at higher speeds, is the redline on these engines high enough to allow it?
as far as i can tell the 1.0 and 1.3 will swap with each other buy not with a 660 motor. what may work is a 1.3 AND transmision out of a 4wd suzuki. there is a huge amount of speed parts for these motors. check out this site . http://www.outerlimits4x4.com/PHP_Modules/phpBB2/viewforum.php?f=7
You have to remember the considerable slant these Carry engines have to fit underneath. You would have to modify the oil pan and pickup, for fit, as well as consider how the transmission would follow that angle as well (if you keep the donor trans). I considered taking off the bed, or cutting a hole and popping the upper half of the engine out of it..but the length of most engine/transmission combos extend well past the rear axle. Possibly an RX-7 rotary engine/trans. would work. They are very short, especially the early '80s models (SA). If reverse isn't necessary, think about a Yamaha Vmax engine. 100hp(ish), and runs with a driveshaft that could be easily modified to attach to the rear end. Some nuts run turbo's and nitrous setups on them, bringing them past 200hp.
I've seen a 1.0 metro motor put in a Carry. it was at a junk yard , they had to make a cover about 3 inches taller to go over the motor. as far as the RPM goes these motors top out at 7,000 rpm . my truck motor is only good for 5,500.
I'm not up on all the specs on Geo motors....however I have 7 Geo metros, 4 of them parts cars... My Geo that I drive has 246,000 miles on it, and runs like a striped -@$$ ape.... It would be very interesting to see one of those motors put in a mini truck....maybe this summer I'll look into it...I've got plenty of motors to play with... I say a 1300cc + Harley motor would be sweet in one of these trucks....??...
Lots of good ideas, and I'll be checking out the Suzuki cars for good engine swaps. If anyone has pics, please post..
I realize these trucks are "new" to the american market, and are in "limited" supply/demand by the general public. BUT. . . Instead of doing an engine swap with a higher HP engine, why hasn't someone came up with a bigger carb, high flow intake & exhaust, different camshaft, bore & stroke the engine, get rid of all the vaccuum lines, etc. It seems like there would be a big market (in the future) for replacement, high performance parts. Here is a question. Instead of trying to cram a Metro motor into a truck, will the intake & carb (fuel injection) swap over easily? On the other side of things. These trucks are dependable to drive and can go just about anywhere you want to take them. Why mess with it? Just kidding. Someone make me a Super Charger that I can bolt on to double my HP.
http://www.turbinetech.ca/produit_detail.php?id=8&SESSID=f4e006726397479600ea27a07bd43d40 turbo anyone?
http://www.turbinetech.ca/produit_detail.php?lang=change&id=8 here is the english version of the above link
email i got back from Superfly, i'm running a cam and gear that he made in my metro. Inbox Sentbox Outbox Savebox TeamSwift Forum Index Inbox :: Message From: suprf1y To: larry griffith Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 7:32 am Subject: Re: cam larry griffith wrote: do you know if the 1.0 cam would work in a 0.660 motor (Carry). or would you be able to grind these came? there seems to be some interest in modifying these trucks as they become more popular . thanks larry Are they not an F series? The G motor cams won't fit, as far as I know, but the chinese copy F series are motors are showing up in the little buggies peopel are buying. I've done a few head packages. They take a good cam profile well. Let me know if you have any pics of the motors, or find any info. I'll see what profiles will work _________________ Camshaft questions? http://www.teamswift.net/viewtopic.php?t=6212
Maybe the new Hayabusa 1300cc 195hp@9500rpm This guy down the road builds Super Sevens with Hayabusa power and they look quick! A minitruck is not much heavier. http://www.super7cars.com/index.html Derek
I see the occasional Caterham or Westfield Super Sevens at auction in Japan. One Westfield sold for about $7K a few weeks ago.:frustration: I'll have one someday.
Has anyone thought of using motorcycle powered car parts? Quaife Engineering out the UK (with an link to their site in the USA) has gearboxes and differentials used in "motorcycle powered car" racing over there. I've always wanted to build my own M/C powered car or buggy. Maybe my Carry would make a great transplant host. I always wanted to find a way to get my Carry up to and easily maintain highway speed. Anybody have any thoughts?
Actually, you bring up some intriquing ideas. How about using a Honda Acty as a donor for a home built, mid engine all-wheel-drive roadster? A mini-Lambo of sorts. Hmmmm.... Register it as a kit car depending on your local laws.
Why a Honda Acty? What would make it a better donor than say my Carry? Just curious. Don't know anything about the Acty. I've never seen one up close. But interesting idea. hmmmm.
The only reason I mentioned an Acty is that you'd have a mid-rear engine configuration which would probably get you the best weight balance. With the Carry, though, I suppose you'd have the seats just in front of the rear axle (like on a Seven or Westfield) so I suppose that would work too! On the other hand, the Subaru is the only one with a true independent rear suspension...AW heck, I'd bet it would be fun no matter what you used! And then there's the local Motorcycle Salvage yard that has a dumped, 2006 Hayabusa for US$2395 for a donor....(gurgle gurgle gurgle)
I'm watching the video thinking that looks pretty slow for a Busa powered Metro, then I read 600cc. Still cool, but not as cool as a Busa powered minitruck would be.
cool the only down side is the gearing , what works well for a 450 LB bike doesn't do so well for a 1500 lb car. but fun none the less! http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/larryn2o/IM000624.jpg http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r55/larryn2o/IM000625-1.jpg
