AZ Support SB1464 Street use of Mini Trucks

http://www.azleg.gov/FormatDocument.asp?inDoc=/legtext/48leg/2r/bills/sb1464p.htm

I have been working with Senator Ron Gould sponsored SB1464. It will be heard in the transportation committee, that He chairs, soon.
Senator Ron GouldServing Arizona's 3rd District,

I have been working with State Rep: Trich Grow, Andy Tobin, Transportation commity member Jerry Weiers.

BTW for those who are don't know, Federal DOT and State DOT work together, not in conflict. Each state has permission to enact there own laws for local city travel as there state see's fit. Federal law will step in on interstate issues however. Talk to your local state rep or Senator and educate yourself.

 

Let me add that these trucks are viewed as off road trucks like yamaha rhino's and will not require a "DEALERS LICENSE" to sale despite some looming fears, if made street legal.

 

Looks like there is alot of information in that article. But, in a nut shell it looks as if you will be allowed to drive these on a road as long as the posted speed limit is 35 or less. Similar to a golf cart community.

 

We need your support on SB1464 is a bill we are hoping to be passed into law that would allow,

Japanese kei class mini trucks to be driven on city streets.

This bill classifies Japanese mini trucks as "venture trucks".

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/DocumentsForBill.asp?Bill_Number=SB1464&image.x=12&image.y=11

The Bill will be presented for approval by the transportation Senate Standing Committee

Ron Gould (Chairman Republican Intern)
Pamela Gorman (Vice-Chairman Democratic Analyst)
Robert Blendu (Member Republican Analyst)
Rebecca Rios (Member Democratic Intern)
Victor Soltero

Please write these senators and express your views of support before 23 Feb 08!

http://www.azleg.gov/CommitteeInfo.asp?Committee_ID=13

50mpg Vehicles.... GAS $4.00 per GAL!!!

Please support SB1464

In AZ we enjoy the liberties of ATV’s, UTV’s, Golf Carts Buggies ect. to be registered for street Hwy use if modified for Hwy use. Most use these vehicles as an alternative means of transportation given our current gas costs. Many vehicles have been registered as a result where many people enjoy travel on roadways in these types of vehicles. I even saw TV programs of AZ State reps that also enjoy travels with these types of vehicles.

Recently I had the opportunity to purchase two Japanese Kei class Micro trucks (Suzuki Carry with dual safety airbags & Honda Acty). They are a 660cc gasoline motor that get 50mpg, 4x4 with AC & Heater. The come equipped with smog equipment like a catalytic converter and egr valve and very quiet muffler. The have shoulder & lap safety belts and have all necessary equipment to be safely driven on-road.

They have everything one would need to drive legally on the road and very versatile in a grocery getter, construction, farming/ranching, parts truck ect. They are imported and sold in the US for off road use only however given the liberties of this great state, I was sure that I would have no problem registering these vehicles. Not so, The MVD and the local inspector stated I could not. I do not understand why other that political red tape.

MANY in my community have expressed huge interest in these vehicles and inspired me to become a dealer. This may be a great opportunity for me as well as others across the state of AZ. What can I/we do bring attention to this subject to inspire laws that would allow these vehicles for on-road travel?

The truck (Japanese KEI class 660cc mini trucks) I have purchased from the importer are;

• Not new
• Do not have a certificate of origin
• Do not have a VIN number, but rather a chassis serial number
• The only documents are a bill of sale that states “sold as off-road use” and the Japanese vehicle title with a translated copy.

Can an off-road vehicle that is lawfully imported to the US be allowed to;

• Receive a AZ, LEVEL 2 DOT inspection
• Issuance of a VIN
• Issuance title

Like the Yamaha 660cc Rhino?

• Economic @ 50mpg 3cyl 660cc motor
• 5spd Trans 4x4
• Environmentally smog equipped
• AC/Heat
• 70+ mph
• Dual air bags
• DOT Safety glass
• Seat belts
• Horn, lights, signals, mirrors
• Can fit in back of full size truck
• Can fit a full size ATV in back of mini truck
• 1000lbs, 5ft x 8ft
• Inexpensive @ $6000.00 retail or less

Potential:

• Tourist Business guided rental tours
• Detail truck
• Parts or pesticide truck
• Search/rescue fire PD patrol truck
• Mail truck
• Grocery getter
• Construction truck for tight access
• City work truck
• City event truck
• Neighborhood truck
• Hunting
• Camping
• Prospecting
• Search and rescue
• Hotel truck

I started a company, Redline Speed Marine where we hope to do business in sales and customizing. I have a list of people that want these trucks for local use. After a recent city fair showing, I have had a large intrest from the community and City departments asking about street use! I answer questions on average of 3-6 A DAY!!! Most are 50 + years of age and 60% or so women! I told them I would be contacting you to find out what we as a group can do to help support a possible bill? These issue ARE being discussed over the internet in several forums.

If you have any questions, Please call me any time at (928) 505-8378

Thank You!
Steve Astorga
SteveRT@Frontiernet.net

 

Thanks for getting this started

Hello, I sent an email to all my reps, plus an email thanking the sponsors. Good Luck Terry

 

Thanks for your support! I hope more from AZ will support this bill.

Ron Gould (Chairman Republican Intern)
Pamela Gorman (Vice-Chairman Democratic Analyst)
Robert Blendu (Member Republican Analyst)
Rebecca Rios (Member Democratic Intern)
Victor Soltero

Please write these senators and express your views of support before 23 Feb 08!

http://www.azleg.gov/CommitteeInfo.asp?Committee_ID=13

 

For those wishing to want laws changed in there state,

Write Your Representative http://www.house.gov/writerep/

Senators http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...state&Sort=ASC

They will respond. Mail everyone in your state, many will respond.

 

26Feb08: The bill was unanimously voted by Senate transportation committee to move to the next step towards becoming law.

 

Way to go stevert!!

 

I think we are going to get to tag here in OK too...

I have a friend who is a state senator and he is trying or all ready has a bill for these trucks. They will be classed in some class like 1600 lbs and over small truck. And we will get to tag them like a pickup or something like that. I will tag mine as a farm truck of course. He says this should go thru around June or July. There hasn't been any opposition to doing this from what he tells me. Hope all this goes thru.

 

You know you have my complete support Steve

 

looks like it passed the AZ senate today

Passed 17 to 9 w/ 4 no votes, now its off to the house.
Good luck guys.
Anyone know how many states mini trucks can be legally driven on the state roadways, and/or how many states are considering it?
Jim

 

Congrats Stevert. Glad to see that AZ has once again made a good decision for it's Citizens.

Spdracr, Hopefully, OK will follow the same path, and join the rest of the states like ours that recognize the benefits of allowing on road use.

 

Sure hope so.

 

Almost 1/2 Way There!!! Need Your Emails Az!

Friday Mar 14, 2008 5:54pm

SB1464 will be before the house in 3 weeks or so. Please write members of the house transportation committee listed below. Please tell them to please support this bill.

I was told if it becomes law, we are looking around Aug or Sept 08 to take effect.

http://azleg.gov/CommitteeInfo.asp?Committee_ID=59

House of Representatives Standing Committee

Andy Biggs Chairman Democratic Analyst abiggs@azleg.gov
Marian McClure Vice-Chairman mmcclure@azleg.gov
Ed Ableser Member Republican Analyst eableser@azleg.gov
Sam Crump Member Republican Intern scrump@azleg.gov
Steve Farley Member Democratic Intern sfarley@azleg.gov
Nancy McLain Member nmclain@azleg.gov
John B. Nelson Member jnelson@azleg.gov
Tom Prezelski Member tprezelski@azleg.gov
Jackie Thrasher Member jthrasher@azleg.gov
Jerry Weiers Member jpweiers@azleg.gov

Thanks....

Steve Astorga
SteveRT@Frontiernet.net
(928) 505-8378

 

More States?

I have been reading several posts here, and we are thinking of buying one of these Minis. We live in So Dak, and here they can be registered as an ATV (Class 2) and driven on any roads, except the interstate. Now in an earlier post someone asked if they are able to be licensed in the state you are from, can you cross into another state with them legally. I see that there was a reply, but to me it was confusing. So since I live in SD, and they are legal, (kind of), can I take it into MN, and NE, neither of which allow these to licensed as any type of on road vehicle.
I say yes, because if it has a plate in your home state, and you are a resident of that state, then it doesn't matter which state you go to, because you are bound by your own state laws on this matter.
Hubby says no! If you are going to drive in a state that does not allow these, then you can't drive them there. Same priniciple as speed limits, SD is 75, MN is 70. Just cuz you are from SD does not mean you can go 75 on their roads. Same same, when in their state you have to abide by their laws.

Ok then, there are both sides,,, Which is it??? :frustration: LOL
Thanks for reading!

 

OK, you are asking another complex question that is not going to have a cut and dry answer.

If SD is registering these trucks as ATV's. then the answer is NO, you cannot simply drive it across state lines, into another state - UNLESS they have similar laws on the books regarding on road use of ATV's. This is one of those areas that individual states can and will enforce their own laws, and you'll be expected to abide by them while visiting the neighbouring state.

Now, what you CAN do, is drive one that is titled and registered for UNRESTRICTED on road use, into a neighbouring state. States WILL recognize a fully registered and tagged minitruck as road legal from another state. Now, if you DO cross the lines with one that is fully legal, into a state that does not allow them, DO expect to be stopped and questioned.

 

Thanks so much for clearing that up better!!
So now all that we have to do is wait until SD makes them a totally legal street vehicle before we cross state lines, but it still won't stop me from buying one of these great little trucks! Thanks again for the response!

 

BILL STATUS VOTES FOR SB1464 - Third Reading

Y = Yes
N = No
NV = Not Voting
EXC = Excused
V = Vacant Member Name Vote Member Name Vote Member Name Vote


Paula Aboud N
Marsha Arzberger N
Meg Burton Cahill N
Jorge Luis Garcia N
Debbie McCune Davis N
Barbara Leff N
Leah Landrum Taylor N
Charlene Pesquiera N
Richard Miranda N

:sly:
Carolyn S. Allen NV
Jake Flake NV
Albert Hale NV
Rebecca Rios NV


Amanda Aguirre Y
Robert Blendu Y
Robert "Bob" Burns Y
Ken Cheuvront Y
Pamela Gorman Y
Ron Gould Y
Chuck Gray Y
Linda Gray Y
Jack W. Harper Y
John Huppenthal Y
Karen Johnson Y
Tom O'Halleran Y
Victor Soltero Y
Jay Tibshraeny Y
Thayer Verschoor Y
Jim Waring Y
Timothy S. Bee Y

 

Wow, pretty close vote if you include the no votes. Enough of a majority to pass?

 

Bill Is Now Before The House

IT'S BEFORE BEFORE THE HOUSE NOW........

http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/48leg/2r/summary/h.sb1464_04-03-08_caucuscow.doc.htm

 

Sounds Great

I Got An Email From Jack Harper A Couple Of Weeks Ago. Asking How The Buisiness Venture Was Going. I Had Wrote To Him In Support Of Your Bill, So He Must Have Confused Me With You. I Replied And Told Him He Had Me Confused With You. Didn't Have Your Contact Info, Hope He Got In Touch With You. Terry

 

Unanimous House decision!?!?!

Unanimous House decision!?!?!

BILL STATUS VOTES FOR SB1464 - Transportation (HOUSE REPS)
4/4/2008 8:42:45 PM
Vote Detail For SB1464 - Transportation Referral

Y = Yes
N = No
EXC = Excused
AB = Absent
P = Present Member Name Vote Member Name Vote Member Name Vote

(HOUSE)
Jerry Weiers AB
Ed Ableser AB
Sam Crump Y
Steve Farley Y
Nancy McLain Y
John B. Nelson Y
Tom Prezelski Y
Jackie Thrasher Y
Marian McClure Y
Andy Biggs Y

8-Yes's to 0-No's



On the senate front...

(SENATE)
4/4/2008 8:42:43 PM Vote Detail For SB1464 - Transportation Referral
BILL STATUS VOTES FOR SB1464 - Transportation

Y = Yes
N = No
NV = Not Voting
EXC = Excused Member

Robert Blendu Y
Victor Soltero Y
Pamela Gorman Y
Ron Gould Y
Rebecca Rios NV

4 Y's to 0 N's


Overview.....

BILL STATUS OVERVIEW SB1464
SPONSORS: GOULD P HARPER C GROE C
TITLE: venture trucks; regulation
SENATE FIRST READ: 02/05/08
SECOND READ: 02/11/08
COMMITTEES: ASSIGNED COMMITTEES ACTION
Vote Detail 02/11/08 TRANS 02/26/08 (4-0-1-0) DP
02/11/08 RULES 03/05/08 PFC
MAJORITY CAUCUS: 03/06/08 Y
MINORITY CAUCUS: 03/06/08 Y
CONSENT CALENDAR: 03/05/08 2:46 PM
THIRD READ: DATE AYES NAYS NV EXC EMER AMEND RFE 2/3 VOTE RESULT
Vote Detail 03/10/08 17 9 4 0 PASSED
TRANSMIT TO HOUSE: 03/10/08
HOUSE FIRST READ: 03/20/08
COMMITTEES: ASSIGNED COMMITTEES ACTION
Vote Detail 03/20/08 TRANS 04/03/08 (8-0-0-2-0) DP
03/20/08 RULES
SECOND READ: 03/24/08


So far so good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
People in AZ, THANKS FOR THE SUPPORT I HAVE SEEN & HEARD ABOUT in getting word to AZ Government.

Almost there!!!!

 

Great News:d:d

 

Super!!! What's the next step???

 

Govenor's Signature. Got a Pen?

 

14 APR 2008 News

BILL STATUS VOTES FOR SB1464 -
HOUSE Third Reading

9 no's
Paula Aboud N
Marsha Arzberger N
Meg Burton Cahill N
Leah Landrum Taylor N
Jorge Luis Garcia N
Barbara Leff N
Charlene Pesquiera N
Debbie McCune Davis N
Richard Miranda N


:sly: 4 no votes
Carolyn S. Allen NV
Jake Flake NV
Albert Hale NV
Rebecca Rios NV

17 Yes Votes!!!
Amanda Aguirre Y
Robert Blendu Y
Robert "Bob" Burns Y
Ken Cheuvront Y
Pamela Gorman Y
Ron Gould Y
Chuck Gray Y
Linda Gray Y
Jack W. Harper Y
John Huppenthal Y
Karen Johnson Y
Tom O'Halleran Y
Victor Soltero Y
Jay Tibshraeny Y
Thayer Verschoor Y
Jim Waring Y
Timothy S. Bee Y

15Apr08 10:30am Vote MINORITY CAUCUS: 04/15/08 Y

26 total votes
17 YES votes... (2/3) of 26 = 17.3333333 2/3's majority vote is a Pass to Me!!!

 

Positive action in one state might help convince legislatures in other states to allow these trucks on low speed roads or country roads.

Good luck on this,

Sam

 

What reason did the others have to vote no? Do they enjoy seeing their constituents NOT getting any relief from gas prices? I would be sure to send a letter to each "NO" vote and let them know how you and everyone you know will be voting when reelection time comes around.

 

Was wondering how this bill was doing?

Seems like ADOT is fighting this if I read this correctly.

According to the Arizona Department of Transportation Motor Vehicle Division, MVD has been gathering information on this issue over the past two months. MVD reports that last week, the Division received the following information from the American Association of Motor Vehicle Administrators (AAMVA):



South Dakota
Classifies these types of vehicles as All Terrain Vehicles – operated as off-highway vehicles.

North Dakota
Classifies these types of vehicles as Off-Highway Vehicles – operated on some public roads.

Texas
Classifies these types of vehicles as Slow Moving Vehicles (SMVs) – Texas will not title and register vehicles as an SMV that is manufactured to travel over 25 miles per hour. K-class trucks are equipped with a governor that limits travel speed to 25 miles per hour as a condition of import, however, Texas states that if a governor can be placed on a vehicle it can be taken off and therefore Texas does not title and register these vehicles for on-road use.