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14" wheels & tires on Sambar - no lift

Discussion in 'Tips and Tricks' started by 350v8s10, Oct 20, 2008.

  1. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

    Here are the MB 5X 14", 4x100 (and 4x114), wheels and the General Altimax HP 185/60R-14 tires mounted on my 2000 Sambar without using a lift kit.

    My tire specs=

    manufacturer = General
    model name = ALTIMAX HP
    catagory = Grand Touring All Season
    size = 185/60R-14
    tread pattern = directional
    UTQG = 440 A A
    maximum load = 1047 lbs.
    maximum inflation pressure = 51 lbs.
    tread depth = 10/32"
    tire weight = 17 lbs
    rim range = 5" to 6.5"
    section width (on 5.5" rim) = 7.4"
    overall diameter = 22.7"
    revolutions per mile = 890
    price (from www.tirerack.com) = $51.00

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    Last edited: Oct 20, 2008
  2. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

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  3. Acerguy

    Acerguy Moderator Staff Member

    Nice post. That's the exact same size wheel/tire that I can run on my Toyota. Got a picture of your whole truck with these on?
  4. Terry, Those wheels look great! Like Acer said, got any full truck shots?
  5. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

    Full truck shots? Full Truck shots?

    I knew I was going to get called on this. I am no good at poker either.

    Being as how I didn't have sufficient disposable income to buy all 4 wheels & tires right now, I decided to buy just one wheel/tire and then do a photo feature using the one wheel/tire and just move it to the various 4 corners of the truck as needed for the write-up. I am hoping for another economic incentive from my Gov't to fund the remaining wheels/tires I need........

    Continued below-
    Okay, so not true. Just kidding. I just didn't want a full view pic posted until the truck was further alonng with its mods. Here are a few taken a few minutes ago. I couldn't get a good vantage point but you can get the idea........:

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  6. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Active Member

    there's always a chihuahua in the pictures!! my dog does the same... lol. good looking rims!
  7. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

    I took him for his first ride in the Sambar today. 5 feet forward and 5 feet back. We did this about 3 times. All I heard from him was-

    WOOOOF! (translated to "AAAAIIIIIEEEE Carumba!!!!)
    Wooof-woof-woof (translated to "Ondolay - El Grande Rapido" or "Here Lizard - Lizard - Lizard!)

    Thanks for the nice comments. I have a great base platform truck to work with. It is just a matter of time to evolve it into something personal. Got to finish it sometime this year as I want a "Classic" also.
  8. oldsnowman

    oldsnowman Member

    that was really funny:D:D you had me beleaving it too by spacing the pictures down...great job...toooo funny:D
  9. Looks good Terry!

    Looks like you've been polishing on the truck a little, too. I see the BMW is out as well! Nice riding weather now!
  10. I've got a "Classic" truck on order - could be yours! :) Unfortunately it's not a S/C, so you'll have to drive it on Sundays! :cool:
  11. Colin

    Colin Member

    I tried to bring my ~70lb black lab to the vet in the Sambar once. I left the passenger-side window down about half way so he could enjoy the breeze. As soon as I put the truck in gear and let the clutch out, he jumped out the half-open window and landed in a ball on the ground, then ran off as fast as his legs could carry him. I guess he knew it was time to get neutered. :(

    Oh yeah, nice wheel/tire combo. Looks really familiar. :D

  12. jtpc

    jtpc Member

    Glad to see you got your wheels/tires safely in. :)
    Let me know how it drives/handles now.
  13. Samurai9

    Samurai9 Member

    What is the advantage of 14 inchers over the standard 12 inch wheels? Granted, the original wheel/tire combination looks very puny on kei trucks.

  14. jtpc

    jtpc Member

    One advantage is you will be traveling at a higher speed with your engine turning a lower RPM.
  15. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Active Member

    for me the biggest advantage was a greater selection of tires. i liked the overal diameter of the stock tires for the gearing, but didn't like the width of it. i wanted a bigger footprint. for less money than stock tires would have cost to replace i bought used rims and new tires.
  16. jtpc

    jtpc Member

    Very true, I went with 14" because that is the smallest size they made the tires I wanted. This way I can have a tire that lasts long, isn't super narrow, and is good on highway and snow.
  17. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    Plus a 1/2" extra ground clearance never hurt when trying to dodge boulders in the boonies :D
  18. larryb

    larryb New Member


    hi guys. i have a 96 sabmar whats the bigs rim an tire i can go to with out having a lift kit. thanks larry
  19. ukmicro

    ukmicro Member

    Great pics,
    I shall try my std 14" Alloys off my Aygo an the Sambar when I change the Aygo back to the wider alloys
    14" 4X100 PCD, 37mm offset standard on the Toyota.
    Think the new 6.5"x15" wheels and 195x45x15 tires for the Aygomight foul the bodywork on the Van
  20. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Active Member

    you should try the seach function at the top of the page, and check out the "sticky" posts... this has been covered many, many times...
  21. wasco

    wasco New Member

    Shimmy ??

    Today I changed the 12" tires for some 14" wraped with 185-60R14 tires. At 80 km/h, I thought the wheels would come off the truck ! They started to shimmy like crazy. Do you guys with the same set-up have the same problem ? There is no shimmy with the 12" wheels even at 100 km/h.

    Second thing I noticed while checking the speed with my GPS is that with the original 12" tires, the indicated speed on the speedometer is higher than the real speed of the truck. I would get 87 km/h on my speedometer and 80 km/h on the GPS. Is it common to all mini trucks ?
  22. Colin

    Colin Member

    No shimmy whatsoever with my Sambar. The only difference in drivability is slightly slower acceleration, due to the higher weight and marginally greater rollout distance of the 14" tires.

    I'd imagine the handling is also impacted slightly by the greater unsprung weight, but I don't autocross pickup trucks. :D

  23. wasco

    wasco New Member


    Thanks Colin... I'll look at my front linkage system and try to find something loose.
  24. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

    The 14s should ride as smooth as glass with no shimmy. Look for loose steering box, loose tie rod end(s), loose wheel bearing(s), worn A-arm bushing(s), wheels not bolted on flush, lug nuts loose, poor wheel balance, and an out of true tire. Any of these can cause a shimmy.

    It is also common for a manufacturer to make speedometers err on the side of the speed shown being higher than actual speed (by 3-4 MPH or so) . Going to a larger diameter tire will change this. Most commonly, going to oversize tires will result in the vehicle traveling faster than the speedometer display. In your case, it may just be enough change to where your speedo display speed and your true speed are the same.
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  25. toomanymachines

    toomanymachines New Member

    I put a set of 185/60r14 dunlop winter tires on my daihatsu heavy dumper climber. I have a two inch lift and had to fold the bottom back lip of the door in. Everything is good so far. i did balance my tires, that may avoid some vibration on the road.
    I also have a groover and grooved half of every second lug off. to make them a little more off road viable. I think I will take the whole lug off, to make it more aggressive.
  26. Subaru_Ferdi

    Subaru_Ferdi New Member

    Do you have any clearance/turning issues running 185's on a stock height Sambar?
  27. 350v8s10

    350v8s10 Member

    They do not have any clearance or turning issues using the wheels I used.
  28. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Moderator Staff Member

    don't forget to check the backspacing out!! if you have too much + or - it can be hard on your wheel bearings and cause it to shimmy!!

    also a whacked rim can do that to. find a place that balances rims!
  29. Tony Evers

    Tony Evers Active Member

    good post, does anyone know the maximum width of 14" rim with a 2" lift that I can use. Thanks in advance
  30. jlechner

    jlechner New Member

    Like my Sambar

    I have a 97 Sambar with a 2" lift that I installed a while ago. I didn't have any problems with the rear cv's until I removed the pass side to replace a torn inner boot. Maybe I pulled it out when I was putting the spring back in with the extension . I am thinking about pulling the lift kit off. Will that size tire and wheel fit on my 97 Sambar with no or minor mods, and will it lift the Sambar almost as much as the 2" lift did ? It should go down the road better than the 4 wheeler tires and wheels that I put on it since the lift kit has screwed up my camber and castor ? I would appreciate any help on this. Also is that about the tallest tire I could put on without rubbing too bad ?
    Last edited: Oct 6, 2014

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