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Do you spin your tires ALL the time?

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by carry-metotheboondocks, Nov 5, 2011.

  1. Whenever I get onto ramps, uneven pavement or just a simple pot hole one of my rear wheels would **** up and I get wheel spin.

    So I always have to use 4wd to get unstuck.

    This happens only with my Carry (4x4). My other Carry's which are 4x2 doesn't get stuck. Is it because the 4x2's have their engine near the rear?

    Is this pretty normal? Or is there something wrong with my diff? Or my rear is just too light? 'Coz if yes, a steel rear bumper would do the trick!

    How I wish I have diff lock...

    Thanks.
     
  2. wreck

    wreck Member

    I leave a couple hundred pounds of sand in the bed of mine all the time. I used to have to put it into 4wd on a frosty morning to get it to move.
     
  3. TRAX and HORNS

    TRAX and HORNS Well-Known Member

    1. If you don't have rear diff. Lock yes this will happen.
    2. I've never seen any other Suz. Carry with engine in rear
    If I am following right.
    Interesting.
    Your basic 4x4 truck will only have one tire pulling
    front and rear.
    A few trucks out there will have A rear diff lock which only
    Works in 1 st gear. As soon as you shift to 2nd gear it auto. unlocks. That way you won't tear up your rear end at higher speeds.
     
  4. Ran440

    Ran440 Member

    Wow, that is interesting information. I just assumed the diff lock would work in all gears including reverse.
     
  5. Little Dumper

    Little Dumper Member

    Not quite, its 25(ish)km/h that dis-engauges the diff-lock. I have had the truck all the way up to 4th gear and the diff will stay locked.

    I don't have that issue at all, you may have an added leaf in the back making it not want to articulate enough. The truck will always want to follow the front wheels in the direction of tipping because of the huge front weight bias.


    Jon.
     
  6. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Moderator Staff Member

    even my big truck would do the same. one wheel in the air or just not enough traction and it would need 4x4 to get going.
     
  7. Ran440

    Ran440 Member

    A little trick I had forgotten about when one tire is spinning is to apply the brakes a little. This will stop the the wheel that's spinning and transfer a little power to the other side.
     
  8. Little Digger

    Little Digger Member

    I had the same problem, The rear end of these trucks are lite. When I built my rear bumper I filled the tube with lead wheel weight's then welded cap's on the end's. good weight as far to the rear as possible. I don't know what you have for a lift, when I got my truck they added a leaf to the rear spring pack, It didn't have much articulation, I found out the shock's were topping out and would not let the axle drop any more than a few inches. :frustration:
     
  9. I think I might just do that...

    Thanks Wreck.

    I think I'll be fabricating my steel rear bumper soon. This would add weight at the rear right?
     
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  10. thank you for the heads up. i sit corrected

    T & H,

    I guess what I meant was that since my Carry is 4x4 its engine is a bit under the seat as compared to the 4x2's in which case most of the engine is under the bed service panel.

    Thanks for the diff lock lesson. :)
     
  11. Added Leaf Springs?

    Thanks Jon.

    I do have 3 leaf springs which are pointing up (U shaped) and 1 that's really thick and flat. Is this pretty normal for the Carry's?

    Jeremy
     
  12. drag...

    sounds like I need a line lock and would do a burnout. thanks thanks. will try that. if it won't work at least I had my fun. lol.
     
  13. articulation...

    Little Digger,

    I think that's what's happening to me rear axle. there is not much articulation and when I get one wheel into a pothole the other side just hangs. I guess I'll be taking out a spring and change my struts to longer ones. Hopefully I get a car like ride.

    Thank you for all your replies. It was noted and greatly appreciated.
     
  14. Little Digger

    Little Digger Member

    I remember when I had the stock drive train the truck, it would spin going up any slight grade on a gravel road. It's better now that the weight is balanced front to rear.
     
  15. wreck

    wreck Member

    yep - but just the steel bumper won't add much.

    I should look into the lead thing so I can keep the box empty.
     
  16. Little Digger

    Little Digger Member

    I think I used the first two leave's, chucked the added lift spring and used the last over load spring, [cut the end's down], then mounted the axle under the spring pack. You will have to mount the park brake cables lower on the frame. This was the best ride I got from my truck, way more articulation.
     
  17. Hmmm. A suggestion...

    Why not cut up your lead blocks and bolt them on the frame/chassis or under the bed (considering you don't have a dump)? Just like weights in the gym. Then put 4 load cells under your four wheels and move the weights forwards or backwards to attain a 50-50 weight distribution. What do you think?

    Or...let's do the lead thingy.
     
  18. what a monster

    Little Digger,

    Saw your truck in your album and that's just tight! I wish I had power like yours. With the A/C on in my truck it just lacks power and knocks when the compressor kicks in.

    Will take what you said into consideration. Hopefully I get to finish this project truck of mine to post some pics.

    Thanks.
     
  19. Little Digger

    Little Digger Member

    Ya I remember the A/C made one hell of a good engine brake!:frustration:
     
  20. Little Dumper

    Little Dumper Member

    You bet it makes a hell of an engine brake, I have gone down 45+ deg. slopes and not once touched the brake, for 1000ft.

    I read a lot of guys are having issues with detonation lately, I know that some have had success with running 87 octane but you dudes in the US should really be running 91 in your trucks. Especially if you have a heavy truck with AC. The diff. between a 2wd and a 4x4 with a dumper and AC is a whopping 800lbs (my truck is 2100lbs, some have said that their 2wd's are 1300lbs).

    If you are going to work the same engine that a light truck has in a vehicle that weighs 40% more you gotta give it good fuel to cope with the extra load. I know, I have to climb a 14% grade for 4km every time I come home.


    Jon.
     

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