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General Carry Info

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by cabinmini, Nov 23, 2008.

  1. cabinmini

    cabinmini Member

    Hi All.
    I am hoping to be a happy owner of a 92 or 93 Carry next month. I have been lurking on this forum to learn what I can and it has been great. It is nice to go to a forum with the right kind of "attitude". I am a bit more comfortable in my decision to get a 15+ year old vehicle.

    Many have upgraded to larger wheels. I believe the stock wheel is a 4x114.3 and the stock tire is a 145 80R 12"? Please correct me if I am wrong. Does anyone have the centre bore and offset specs for a 1992 or 1993 Carry stock wheel?

    It is my guess that this change is mainly for looks and to get a greater selection of tires. I have been looking at this as well. I have been using the following link http://www.1010tires.com/TireSizeCalculator.asp?action=submit thanks to Timetripper I believe. It is a great resource but after using it I think that the only change that I could come up with that would keep within their 3% recommendation (and be able to find a common tire) would be up to a 13" wheel with 165 65R 13" tires. Even then the tire selection doesn't seem to improve much but hopefully you can pick up some nicer looking wheels. I live in Canada and I plan to use this vehicle on the roads. I see that many of you have gone to 14" wheels. Can you let me know your impressions of the drivability of the vehicle with the change you made. Also did anyone find a used wheel (with or without an "off the shelf" centreing ring) that was a straight bolt on change? Has anyone kept the stock rims and done an "upgrade" to them that they would like to share?

    I live on an occaisionally plowed road, does anyone chain up the vehicle on a regular basis and how does it work out?

    I think that I will go with 5w30 engine oil. Has anyone gone to a lighter weight differential and transmission fluid for colder weather operation? Have they had any issues because of the change?

    Is anyone using a magnetic oil pan heater and how do they like it?

    Sorry for all of the questions. Maybe someday I can contribute to this knowledge base too. Trial and error can be a hard way to learn! :frustration:

    Thanks to all who make this such a great resource! It is great for newbies and wanna bees!

    Jim
     
  2. boatman

    boatman Member

    hey cabinmini - good to hear yer getting a mini. I have a 92 carry with Diff Lock; I use it as a daily driver too. Yesterday we got 35 cms of white stuff - very unusual to have quite that much in one dump this early in the year here. I got up, jumped into the carry with stock 12" tires (145/80r12 goodyear nordic winter tires), let her warm up a little and started down the street. now this truck with no lift and these tires has maybe 6.5" of ground clearance, and I was moving thru 12-14" of heavy wet snow - admittedly with some difficulty - but I got thru off our street onto a plowed road (about a km) without having to stop, back-up or frig around. I used the diff lock for most of it, and it makes a HUGE difference. I don't know how, but this darn thing just chews thru this stuff. I was pushing snow in front of me like a plow for a lot of it.

    so - that's a single experience for me, I've only had the truck for a month - but I have to say i'm impressed with the bare bone stock ability so far. I was able to keep up with my neighbor in his lifted 88 toyota plow truck with 34" mudders on. He was blow away. I was surprised too. I have been wrestling with the same wheel/tire questions and I think the solution really depends on use. I do have a 2" lift kit that I'm going to try, but i'm going to leave stock tires on for street use I think - they're the best combination for power and economy on hard surfaces. I may try to go slightly larger, but that may require new rims as you've said. I'm looking at getting a second set of rims - probably larger - with strictly off-road tires for some fun driving, and try to get set up with an easy-change over rig to swap em out if I need to. That's my thinking right now... we'll see how it works out.

    in any case - if you can get it, get the dif lock. It makes a huge difference.

    bg
     
  3. cabinmini

    cabinmini Member

    Wow Boatman!
    You don't have to be a Canuk to be impressed with that.
    Appreciate the info
    Thanks Jim
     
  4. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    You need to find out the hub size on the Carry - not in my data base ATM. If no one can come up with a figure
    I wouldn't sweat it just pull one wheel off and measure once you get your new baby.
    Once you establish the hub size it will narrow things down, if you find something with a slightly smaller
    bore hole you can always have it enlarged.

    Yes the stock size tire is 145/R12 which it you wanted to get picky is equivilant to a 82 series.

    A nice size in 13" is the Pirelli "Winter Carving" 155/70R13 - a smidge bigger than 165/65R13 but not as big
    as the 14" to consider - 155/65R14 from Nokia [killer snowie] and the 165/65R14 from Kumho KW19 - what I run BTW

    Chains should be fine as long as you have the clearance for them

    5W30 should be fine for the engine, synthetic tranny oil [i.e. Redline] is reccomended way to go. It sure helped out my Sambar.

    Some users have been installing inline heaters in heater hoses.

    Good Luck on finding a Zuki
     
  5. dmerc

    dmerc Member

    The centerhub hole is 2.9" on my 94 Carry
    BTW, mine easily pulls 4th gear with stock tires....I wouldn't worry about 13" tires....get whatever is common.....it'll save having to listen to the screaming engine at 50mph.
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2008
  6. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    You are better off with the actual "hub" measurement in mm rather than the hole size from the rim.

    The closer the rim bore hole is to the hub size the truer it will be.

    Most newer vehicles use "hubcentric" to locate the rim on the hub as opposed to useing the "lugs" to center the rim.

    Edit: With dmerc's revised figure that would put it in the 73 mm range

    Rims that use 4 x 114.3 lug pattern: [just some, more out there]

    79~83 Nissan Stanza's use a 13x4.5 c/w 66.1 mm bore hole, just get hubcentric rings and you are in business.

    Or 83~86 Sentra use 13x5.5 - same bore size as previous example

    Or 87~92 Stanza use 14x6 - same bore size as previous example

    Or 82~85 Mazda GLC use 13x5.5 - 59.6 mm bore hole

    Or 84~90 Toyota Van Wagon [2wd drive] use 14x5.5 - bore size unknown
     
    Last edited: Nov 24, 2008
  7. dmerc

    dmerc Member

    WHOA!!!!!!!!!!! Sorry, shoulda' been 2.9"!!!!:eek::eek::eek:
     
  8. cabinmini

    cabinmini Member

  9. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    Good info.
    Thanks for posting it :)

    I noticed the second link has a typo and the funny thing is that most of the various sources on the net have the same typo.
    Almost like it was coming from the same intial source and is being repeated on & on.

    At the wheeltool.com a 80~85 Toyota Celica has both a 4 x 100 mm and 4 x 114.3 mm at the same time,
    guess Toyota has really elastic studs in their hubs :D

    The correct one is the 114.3 mm BTW
     
  10. RegentYeti

    RegentYeti New Member

    Where is the oil pan?

    I just bought a 1993 Carry last week, and I'm trying to fit a stick-on oil pan heater to it, but I can't find the oil pan. I've found a cap where the oil pan should be, but it just leads to a cylinder going upwards. If someone could give me some pointers, that would be very helpful.
     

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