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Messed up timing on 93 carry

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by JonP, Apr 29, 2020.

  1. JonP

    JonP Member

    I goofed. I am changing out the timing belt, but didn't line up the cam marks when I took off the belt. Then I lined the cam and crank up, and tried to start it, nothing. Realized I threw off the distributor timing.

    So I thought I knew how to get it back in time, but am scratching my head now. I thought if the cam mark is lined up with the timing belt cover triangle, it should be #1 TDC, but I checked it and it's not. It's at the bottom of the stroke.

    Anyway, how do I line up the distributor again so it fires?

    Thanks for your help!
     
  2. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

    Did you remove the distributor? If not, line up the timing marks as per the manual and install the belt
     
  3. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

  4. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

    that pic is supposed to be for a 96, look the same?
     
  5. JonP

    JonP Member

    Yeah so my cam and crank are both lined up with the marks. But since I took the belt off when they weren't lined up and then aligned them, it misaligned everything from the distributor timing.
     
  6. Leroy25

    Leroy25 New Member

    You guys wouldn’t happen to know how to do this on a 94 Subaru sambar?
    My belt broke. I’ve replaced it but the crankshaft pulley has a single notch on one side and has two notches 180 degrees around. Which one do I go by?
    Also the cam gear appears to have just a slight notch on the outer edge. Is this the timing mark?
     
  7. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

    If you never took the distributor out, line up the marks, put the belt on, and you are good to go man!!! rotate the engine twice looking at the crank marks and recheck, if the cam is lined up, you are good
     
  8. Leroy25

    Leroy25 New Member

    Unfortunately the engine has been turned over with the broken timing belt trying to diagnose a no spark issue. The distributor has been out but I put it back exactly like it was. Since the engine has been turned over with a broken belt cam the timing is all out of whack. My concern is which set of timing marks to use and exactly where the Mark is on the cam
     
  9. JonP

    JonP Member

    I did this but it wouldn't start. I'm guessing because I rotated the cam and crank independently to get lined up it misaligned it with the distributor, right?
     
  10. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

    No, if you never removed the distributor, there is no reason for it to be out
     
  11. JonP

    JonP Member

    Well shoot. I did remove it thinking that was the problem. So how do I put that back in time?
     
  12. Acerguy

    Acerguy Moderator Staff Member

    You probably would have more luck starting your own thread in the Subaru forum (if you haven't already). Good luck!
     
  13. Bigmac

    Bigmac New Member

    Unfortunately I dont have a manual for your vintage vehicle. A lot of import distributors will only go in one way, they have a key on the bottom that will only let it slide in the one way. Does the distributor mount in the cylinder head?
     
  14. Jigs-n-fixtures

    Jigs-n-fixtures Well-Known Member

    Typically the distributor keys in to the non-driven end of the cam, and can only fit one way. So, I would say, of the top of my head with no manual, that you don’t have the cam timing correct. And, you need to get it set properly.

    If you are sure the cam timing is correct, you can crank the engine by hand until the timing marks for where your engine should be in time are lined up. Then if you have a distributor with points, you can rotate the distributor body, until the points open, and the timing will then be close enough to get the engine started. I used to use a continuity checker, and rotate the distributor until it quit toning, and then rotate it back until it toned again.

    If you have a breaker less ignition you can do the same thing visually maybe. It is kind of hard to guesstimate where the signal would be generated to determine where the correct timing point is. Some set ups are easier then others, but most all are a pain.
     
    Last edited: Apr 30, 2020
  15. JonP

    JonP Member

    Turns out the crank was 180 off. Didn't notice the tiny bump that's the mark you are supposed to line it up with. I had it lined up with the dash line. So it's running now, thanks everyone for the help!
     

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