I've got a 94 Scrum Van that has the 4x114.3mm bolt pattern on it, and I'm trying to find some wheels big enough to fit some Carlisle Trac Chief 23/8.50-12 rubber. Their catalog says it requires a 7" wide wheel, and I'm guessing the stiff sidewall makes that pretty much a requirement, not a suggestion. Anyone know where I can find a cheap stamped steelie wheel that fits this?? Also, I've read in several places the Carry can fit a 23" tire without a lift, I'm assuming that holds true for the vans too? But dude, you ask, why would you want to use a skidsteer tire??? Because I need something that's better on mud and soft soil than onroad tires, but does less damage to the ground than full on ag tires with or without the 4wd on. Thanks yall!
So the 114.3 is 4.5-inch. Looking online for “Wheel 12X7 4/4.5 gave me this site: https://www.denniskirk.com/atv/rims-and-wheels/23:7838-352:37511-12:16481.attrs/40.ipp/1.pg Fourteen possibles. Not sure what offset you want. And, why not golf cart “turf” tires? The skid steer tires have lots of plys in the sidewalls, and will be extremely stiff. Stiff enough that they will be a real pain to mount.
I wouldnt think turf tires would work well on anything remotely resembling mud... We'll be driving on surfaces ranging from roads with mud an inch to a few inches deep, hardpack dirt with roots everywhere, and open fields with soft silty soil under grass in various states of wetness. The land owner doesnt want the field tore up if possible, but understands it's a compromise with the roads turning muddy like they do there. Skidsteer tires have arrow lugs, but they're wider than "ag" lugs so they wont depress the soil as much unless it's already bad. I'm open to other tires that suit as a compromise between street/turf treads and full on ag lugs, as long as they come in a wide size so I can have the flotation to not leave tracks everywhere but still have decent grip. Oh, it's also worth mentioning that there are honey locust trees EVERYWHERE out there. The kind with 6" long hard wood thorns. Sometimes the thorns have thorns. Thick sidewalls might be worth the lost flexibility. That link brought me to 4x115, which I understand isnt the same as 4x114.3 ?
Did some more searching, and can’t find any 12-inch with a 4/4.5 bolt pattern. I’d suggest getting ahold of ITP, and seeing if they will custom bore a set for you. I don’t think you’ll get teh results you want with the skid steer tires. They are really stiff, and will not flex to meet the ground, and will maintain a fairly small contact patch. The turf tires flex a lot, and conform to the ground, minimizing the pressure.
I have 12x7 inch Vision Buck Shot with ITP Ultracross 23x10-12 tires on my Minicab. They are 4x115 like the Arctic Cats. They went on, but I had to use 1 inch spacers on the front to clear the struts. This setup works good on and off road. They are radials, so they ride pretty smooth and quiet. I do have a 2 inch lift.
I'm a tire guy. Those tires will be too heavy for your van. Not only is the van well under their designed weight rating so it will never gain optimal traction, they are double the weight of a normal tire.
Fair points. What are your suggested inexpensive tires for the above mentioned uses? I should also mention, I wont often be exceeding 10mph when offroad with them, and I may occasionally be pulling small cars out of the muck. Heh, and now the guy in charge of the vehicles on the property says "eh screw it, just throw ag lugs on it and if they tear the place up we'll revise the rules"
Something like a Carlisle Field trax. But it has to be rated for UTV weight. If a tire has a 7-10 PSI max, it will only be rated for ~250 lbs. Now you could go with something like a 165/65 14 snow tire and that will be good in the mud and snow. I ran 155/65/14 Hakkapalitta R2's on my street driven Carry truck
I installed adapters and went with the more common 4x110 pattern, so I have more options with wheels choice. I use maxxis ceros tires, they have good load rating and are decent in mud and on hard pack.
