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Super Charger Build

Discussion in 'Performance' started by spaner, Jan 21, 2010.

  1. Socal Sonny

    Socal Sonny Member

    Any videos on this build? I want to see this "art" in motion..
     
  2. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Video, Video, gim'ee Video...

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    Fine, I'll give it a shot.

    Open the youtube account, integrate the XDIV codec, etc.
    Upload one fail, (unknown format), upload two fail, (15min+), cut, chop, reformat, upload, capture, initilize, dongle connection, screen resalution too low, etc., etc...

    I could build an entire rock crawler in the time it takes to do this computer stuff...(10year old nephew was busy with exams). This is why I don't do video, anyway...I think it works now...

    I don't have any "hey, check this out" videos, but I do use the recorder for mechanical trouble shooting and this was back at the first road trial, checking pulley alignment, as they are all custom, and trying to integrate all of the mechanical adjustments including watermeth injection, choke level and clutch engagement VS vacuum; 1.5PSI lead level. This is all "in-traffic". Just listen to the sound...you can tell by the end that everything was getting dialed in. When it's right, it's right. Scared me at one point; spun the tires at speed.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XS6ubLFH7A


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  3. greg0187

    greg0187 Moderator Staff Member

    Need to get that idle figured out... Actually really cool vid!! Can't wait for some more!
     
  4. Stuff99

    Stuff99 Moderator Staff Member

    very well done
     
  5. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    Neat vid....never thought I'd hitch a ride in the engine bay like that:p...now that we're hooked you realize you have to feed the addiction...more video:D
     
  6. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Ok, Ok...

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    I realize that the guys like the "video-format" Fupa, and that the "ART" rant runs a little cold on some, but the work progresses, regardless. Even the pictures? You guys didn't get anything out of that? Misting water-meth injector?

    I guess it's all about the end result. The nephew says so. "It's all about the video Uncle". He really likes the truck and has offered to run the "cam-corder" over the summer and run the whole video integration thing. Little producer...

    Maybe I should do that. The girl's still in the snow bank right now, but summer is comming.

    Greg; the problem with the idle, was the mixture, (Too Rich) which came from the MASS-AIR-FLOW. Which was restricted, by the temporary hand cut mounting plates and the STOCK carb spacer (restrictive element)...

    Both were considered, and eliminated...

    The stock DD51t, has a restrictive mass-air-flow element, in the carb mounting plenum, 10% of mass?

    Removed, the engineers are idiots; and the mounting plates were refined and cut, on the water-jet.

    I guess, what you really want to see is a "boosting" video...
    Passing some s*it jetta, on the highway, or whatever...
    Or throwing dirt, off the 11" wide Titans...
    With the "back-ground" music...
    You can see that it revs like an R1...and at video point 6:06, it spun the tires, at speed...

    Tic, Tic, where is your ART, is it really all about the video?


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  7. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    Myself...being a true Gemini...I love reading the Socratic dialectic style you post in..it's both the Phaedrus and Elechus,mixed with a dash of Robert Pirsig"s "Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance"...fun to read...The Monkey side of me loves the visual...keep up ALL the posts/info/tests/photos/video/sketches...and the "ART"....it's all good stuff:)
     
  8. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    The Summer Cometh...

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    And then, the video;

    Thanks Fupa, I really appreciate the hype. I have enjoyed posting with my on-line persona, just as much as "some" have enjoyed reading. The work is "real", and I try to put a bit of a spin on it.
    This is A LOT, of work, but well worth it. This is a hobby, an escape, and it is about the doing; not the end result. Perfection of the ideal will be done, but when it's done, it's over.

    I don't care how long it takes. I only care that it is done to perfection; that it works perfectly, in every way. That, is the ART.

    Then the "build", becomes the "video"; another chapter in my enjoyment...


    Shots of the previously mentioned restrictive elements.


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  9. zardoz

    zardoz Member

    The "ART" and other observations...

    spaner, I'm one that the "ART" wears on eventually... don't get me wrong my friend... I have followed this thread since it's inception (hasn't worn on me too much then... did it? ;) ). The poetic descriptors may not be to my taste... however the craftsmanship most certainly IS! Let those that can't bear the "ART" find another thread to follow :pop: I for one will continue to observe :cool:

    My hat is off to you, every project you've detailed has been superb and obviously carried out in a very professional manner. I look forward to whatever projects you choose to share with us.

    z

    "arte et marte"
     
  10. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    I forgot to add in my last post...If you post more video,and it has "background music"...you will need to be hunted down...that supercharger engaging is the only "music" you need...:)
     
  11. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Comments are always welcomed

    Thanks for the reply guys;
    and Zardoz, I appreciate your candor, I really do.
    A very to the point, yet politically correct statement of opinion.

    Here are some older construction pics I dug up as gratuity.

    Black-Belt-Level

    I have some "misting" video around somewere. I'll see if I can't dig that up. I seem to remember that the video worked while the pics didn't...
     

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  12. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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  13. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    did you up the water/methane injection rate?...looks a bit over 17cc per min
     
  14. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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    It can be misleading in the video, that is a teaspoon, not a tablespoon; backyard measures. :D

    1 teaspoon=4.9289ml
    1 teaspoon=23s
    60s/23s=2.6087
    4.9289ml*2.6087=12.858ml/60s

    There is some realtime adjustment available; +/- 50%.

    Actually, the only reason I had the video was that I didn't have a timer with second hand sweep in the shop at the time, but I had the recorder and tuned via the playback.

    :pop:


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  15. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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    After watching Greg's video, I got all motivated again. So I got the truck out of the storage lot (mud hole) and got some stuff done.

    What do you think? Too much?



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    I was going for the "POLICE" look, but it seems like something's missing.

    I also found a cracked vac line, so they all came out. That's the pile on the foor.:frustration:


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  16. greg0187

    greg0187 Moderator Staff Member

    If your looking for the "Black and White" look like you say... then i suggest more black. Usually all black but only the doors white?? Something blocky like that.. Im thinking at least the frame and tool box black... Love the wheel/Tire combo.
     
  17. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Dho...

    You caught me on that one. I should have been more descriptive there, but yea, I was talking about the wheel/tire combo and getting the "POLICE" look. Took me along time to figure out what combination would work best with a no-lift, no-rub, no-spacer, no-modification, max-size, police-look; "bolt-on" combination.
    Eventually, I plan on going with a black vinyl wrap...less the doors, for a madmax "interceptor" look...tricky, cus enforcement around here don't appreciate that kind of thing and I'm already pushing it with the right-hand-drive thing...and my "drifting" driving style dosen't help either I guess.:D
     
  18. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    you know the MFP yellow/blue/orange would look pretty cool..and you couldn't be "accused " of trying to look like a mainstream Police vehicle...even with gumballs on the roof...the wheels you have look great though
     
  19. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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    You Sir, are a very bad influence on me...cuz..I kind of like it..

    You think I could get away with the badge on the door?:pop:





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  20. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    Damn right you could.....:):):):):):):):pop:

    Myself I would occasionally dress up in an MFP uniform and only use direct quotes from the movie no matter what anyone asks...

    "She sips nitro... with Phase 4 heads! 600 horsepower through the wheels! She's meanness set to music and the bitch is born to run! "

    "The chain in those handcuffs is high-tensile steel. It'd take you ten minutes to hack through it with this. Now, if you're lucky, you could hack through your ankle in five minutes. Go. "

    "Jimmy the Goose, larger than life and twice as ugly! "

    "That scag and his floozie, they're gonna die! "

    "I think we've got some hoon trouble..."



    Those five would work in most situation.....example.
    ."Welcome to Tim Hortons my name is Wendy can I help you?"
    ......"That scag and his floozie, they're gonna die! "
    "Excuse me???"
    "She sips nitro... with Phase 4 heads! 600 horsepower through the wheels! She's meanness set to music and the bitch is born to run! "

    See? perfect...it feeds the need for sartorial outlandishness,the inner thespian,and 13 year old hooliganism without breaking any rules..
     
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  21. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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    Keep it up and you'll see some picks of me getting out of the truck at Timmys' in full "wasteland" leather garb, with sawed-off sidearm:D

    As for the counter banter, I'm more of a "excuse me...have you seen this boy", picture presentation get me my coffee free...;)


    COOL PIC ARE BETTER


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  22. fupabox

    fupabox Well-Known Member

    It appears you have some spot on alignment..:)
     
  23. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

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    Yea, I needed that laser equipment to finish off the Multi Mount. Five components all on one mounting bed. There's no room for individual mountings. I used just about every peice of equipment in the shop making this sucker. A mig sure would have been nice. The 6013s were kicking my ass, trying to weld around corners and through holes...in the engine bay.


    :frustration::frustration::frustration:






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    I think I've done just about all I care to this week. :sly:
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  24. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Welding quick tip...

    For anyone considering welding in the engine bay, stick or mig..

    Put a rag over the main pulley drive assembly...even if it catches fire..


    The spalding actually fused....now I have to pull it...


    :frustration::frustration::frustration:
     
  25. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    The fun with lasers continues...

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    Multi Mount installed
    Pulleys 4, 5, and 6 are now alignned in their new positions
    4040335 Gatorback ordered :D

    6 pulleys and 9 components, all installed and perfectly aligned.
    What did guys do before lasers? :pop:





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  26. zardoz

    zardoz Member

    Spanner I hear ya on the lasers... years ago my dad and I invented a machine to assemble pvc components... it was a BEAST to align. I finally convinced our company to let me trial a brand new laser alignment rig (at that time the tech was pretty much brand new on the market). VIOLA! I was able to bring my machine reset time down by more than half!

    Would LOVE to go for a ride in your beast sometime but you live a long way away... so I'll have to build my own... lol... ya right!

    Keep up the great work!

    z
     
  27. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    Section complete

    Thanks Zardoz,

    It's guys like you (AND OTHERS) that modavate me to keep comming back to this site..and remember to stop...and take a photo...:D

    You've dabbled in robotics a bit so I know that you understand what I'm talking about most of the time. I call it an art, but it's more than that, it surrounds us, it binds us, the rock, the tre...sorry bout that...I mean that it is a moving mechanical art form. It seems to have life; a life that at first, was only imagined, and as the form takes shape, it grows, seamingly of it's own accord, to fill the space and application.

    That is why I do this, not to see it done, but to see the form take shape.

    The same could be said for a hobby like a grow-op, wouldn't you say? ;)


    The laser equipment was bang on, 2mm clearance at all crossover locations:

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    and from previous posts:
    First concept sketch:

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    Second concept sketch:

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    Completed section:

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    If we could get Greg to post up some of his exterior video, I feel that it would help to modivate all of us...:D

    Be nice to hear from Welder and how the "Drifter" is comming along...:confused:


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  28. Vitnzjp

    Vitnzjp Member

    That's F*****G AWESOME :)
     
  29. Harley

    Harley New Member

    There is FA wrap on that alternator, maybe you need to put in another idler pulley.

    Harley
     
  30. spaner

    spaner Well-Known Member

    I couldn't call it...

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    Hey Harley, where you been hiding? How's the bike build going? :pop:

    You're totally right about the Alt belt wrap. It's been on my mind since I changed to the second design and always had the back-up plan of putting in a second idler, if necessary. I just couldn't see if it was needed one way or the other. In the first design I had both the AC and Alt at a 25%/25% shared wrap and realized that the AC would require a much higher torque than the Alt. So I changed it to a 40%/10% wrap, with the thought that it might still be enough for such a small Alt.

    Once the belt was on I couldn't break it loose by hand and got 26"lb on the wrench to break it loose from the belt. Not too bad...during the idle/run-up check, I loaded up all the electrical with a half dead bat...seemed OK. :confused:


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZ7rd9XqqEE




    Have you posted anything on your superbike?


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