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Carry engine swaps?

Discussion in 'Suzuki Carry' started by speedy67, Dec 15, 2007.

  1. Onion Seller

    Onion Seller New Member

    Here is what I was told today.In the mid 70's all the way to the late 80's,Suzuki sold those 'military looking' jeep type vehicles in North America. They started off with 750cc engines,then went to 1000cc engines and finished of with 1375cc by the late 80's. These 3 variations will bolt right into a Suzuki Carry.The man that told me this seemed to know quite a bit about minitrucks and was adament about them bolting right in.Later on in the day,I was wondering about the oilpan,as these engines are slanted.Can any body confirm if this is true. One other thing! He also said that it is the whole engine and transaxle that you bolt in, A 1375cc would be rather peppy!
     
  2. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Active Member


    my buddy had one of those suzuki jeeps with the 750cc motor in it, but never could get it running.

    the oil pan isn't as important as where the oil pick-up tube from the oil pump goes. i think you can turn most motors sideways if your oil will drain from the head back to the pan, and the oil pickup tube always points down.

    when i was racing VW's (they are horizontally oposed) a buddy of mine continued to burn up rod and main bearings above 7000 rpms. the motor holds 3 quarts, the add-on sump helt 2 more, and even with all that and a hi volume oil pump he was starving for oil.

    he cut windows in his valve covers and siliconed lexan in the holes. revved it up and guess what? the oil was loading up in the heads and not draining back to the sump fast enough. the solution was to cut a hole in the head and plumb a return line back to the sump. problem solved... that motor would rev to 9000 rpm after that.
     
  3. Onion Seller

    Onion Seller New Member

    Suzuki LJ-80 engine

    I just went outside and looked at my oilpan.Your right,nothing special about it. It slants the same way as the engine. I must be able to get dimensions somewhere for the LJ-80 engine and transaxle. BUT! The man says it bolts right in. He said I could go all the way up to the 1375cc engine if I wanted!
     
  4. Clifford

    Clifford Member

    That option would interest me greatly!
    How much difference would there be in weight?
     
  5. Mighty Milt

    Mighty Milt Active Member

    i don't think the weight would really be a problem, a good set of helper springs in the back and new coild up front and you are back in business :D you would deffinately have the power to pull a little extra weight.
     
  6. rpm

    rpm Member

    This is very interesting. I'd like to see the results after somebody tries it. My F6A is smoking pretty bad and I wouldn't mind dropping a 1375cc instead of overhauling mine.
     
  7. Ravk

    Ravk Member

    Want more power? Check this out! http://www.evalbum.com/1608. This is a Carry converted to ELECTRIC drive. Now that is extremely cool!
     
  8. Onion Seller

    Onion Seller New Member

    Engine Swap plus other mods.

    I think these minitrucks have a lot of potential. To make a daily driver it would be nice to:

    -extend the cab,that is,make it 4 to 5 inches deeper to get more leg room.
    -a larger engine,to maintain highway speed,and also longevity of the powerplant. A larger engine may increase fuel economy,as it isn't working as hard.
    -with the bigger engine and an extra leaf spring,one could up the capacity to 1000lb's. 1/2 ton!

    My 1990 carry has 155x13 tires(previous owner). It would be nice to go to a 14" tire,if one could obtain 155x14.

    I was out driving it the other day,and found that it is quite nimble in traffic. Easy to park in tight spaces etc.
     
  9. Don-in-Japan

    Don-in-Japan Member

    Years ago, I welded up some motor mounts for a guy's Suzuki van. He converted it to electric, but could never get it thru the inspection process.
    It was quiet as hell. You could never hear the thing sneaking up on you. He did a great conversion, but it was sad he couldn't get it legalized.

    The guy made a helicoptor after that!
     
  10. Windmill

    Windmill Member

    I wonder if the motor from a 2006 Honda Rinicon 4 wheeler would work?
     
  11. Gunrock0811

    Gunrock0811 New Member

    yes, u r very correct about that. i drove one of these mini trucks during my vacation in the Philippines. Drove it through traffic in Manila that can't even NYC traffic can't compare and it was such a dream.

    i don't know if u guys have seen these but this looks like it has a nice high powered engine

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCBdQqUGnjE
     
  12. Dan

    Dan Member

  13. FiveOneOh

    FiveOneOh Member

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    Autozam AZ-1 (Mazda AZ1/Suzuki Cara)
    Suzuki Cappucino

    all have bolt in F6A turbo motors. Been tryin to source one..kinda hard though. My F5 is smokin bad.
     
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  14. Gunrock0811

    Gunrock0811 New Member

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  16. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    Nice find. I see that the video was just posted a few weeks ago.

    • I like the way it was test "run" on the engine hoist :D guess it beats installing a dead engine.
    • That's quite the maze of wiring that he had to pull out including the ECU.
    • Would like to know the timeline for that swap, ripping the old one out is easy compared to hooking up all the wiring harness.:eek:
    • Looks like it will need a permenant "bump" in the bed for the engine cover to clear the induction manifold.
     
  17. Gunrock0811

    Gunrock0811 New Member

    if that was me i'd fabricate a tool box over that area. kinda like a pick-up bed tool box but smaller. and if its for off-roading(duh), id incorporate the intake in it or even the battery. and still have a little room for tow gear.
     
  18. MeZ

    MeZ Member

    What would be the biggest engine you could put in a carry?
    I am yet to own one and ill be upgrading the engine gear
    but im not to sure how big the carrys engine bay is?
    are the carrys over here different? they come with a 1.3l standard
     
  19. Timetripper

    Timetripper Moderator

    One of the problems with a engine swap in any Kei truck is the fact that the engine is almost horizontal.
    This would probably indicate that they have a different internal oiling system not found on upright engines.
    Also due to the horizontal engine configeration most of the external componants are tucked in very close to the block.
    i.e. Even the carbs are Mikuni - sidedrafts like used on jet skis & motorcycles.
    Anything is possible with time & $$$$ but it would be a fair bit more challenging in a Kei

    Yes you are right that they made a Carry with 1.3L versus the 660cc but they are quite mundane engines with HP/ torque specs close
    to what the 660 puts out. You would have to find a source for HP parts for the 1.3L to boost the output to make a significant difference.
    In that regard the Cappucino turbo would make more sense
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009
  20. MeZ

    MeZ Member

    cheers for the writeup timetripper
    basically i know im gonna be wanting more RELIABLE power
    i dont want a beast thats gonna keep breaking down on me
    you are right with the anything is possible with time and money
    i just thought id test the waters to see what people had done!
     
  21. MeZ

    MeZ Member

    Did anyone find out any more info about this?

    EDIT: Did a quick research and maybe an engine from a suzuki samurai?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suzuki_Samurai

    DOUBLE EDIT: lol just realised the aus version has 4 cylinder Unleaded Multi-point injected 1.3L (1298cc) so another 77cc cant see that being that much of an improvement :S
     
    Last edited: Jan 31, 2009

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