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New Carburetor

Discussion in 'Daihatsu Hi jet' started by jody, Jan 9, 2019.

  1. jody

    jody Member

    Was curious to see if anybody had used one of those replacement carbs that need a manual choke cable. I see some sites selling them and they are a lot cheaper than getting a rebuilt from Japan. I'd like to hear how they work and what mods were required. 1993 S83P EF-CS
    Thanks
    Jody
     
  2. Woody

    Woody New Member

    Do you have a link? I'd like to see what you found.

    Thanks,
    Woody
     
  3. jody

    jody Member

  4. Steve S83

    Steve S83 Member

    Jody,

    I'm in the same boat you were back in January. Did you end up making a call one way or another? I'm planning to go with manual choke for cost and simplicity but curious if you have any input?

    Thanks,
     
  5. jody

    jody Member

    Hi Steve
    I ended up buying a used one from ebay and taking that piece off and putting it on my carb.
     
  6. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    I'm in the same boat now looking for a carberater for my 1990 Hijet S83p and keep running into the ones with the manuel chock and was wondering if anyone has tried them.
     
  7. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    I did purchase one from Todd at Proline for $395.00. (www.minitruckgarage.com) I've had good luck dealing with him on my 1989 S81 Daihatsu hijet mini truck! I tried to avoid the whole choke cable thing also but it's really not that of a big deal. It bolts right up and works pretty good. I contemplated the Mikuni carb. route for less money, but more time. I'm sure it would have worked just fine by the time I would have gotten it dialed in. I'm in the process of going through this whole thing, in my spare time, so even though I'm enjoying it, I like to see progress, with severall other projects, of all kinds on my plate! The frustrating problem with the old Carb. was that you can't get the electric solonoids, single wire, (top) and the double wire,(bottom)! It's a hassle as the original kept dumping too much fuel into the system. She's running pretty good now, I'm chasing an electrical short, that is fixible. Good Luck!
    Limestone
     
  8. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Limestone.... Thank you very much for the information. I have bought several things from Todd. Did he have the choke cable too? Where did you put the choke cable. The more I think about it, a manual choke would be better for the Hijet, rather then depending on the heat to open it up.
    So your Hijet runs alot better now with the new carberater and idles without dieing?
     
  9. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    I had a choke cable kit from something else, It has a 90 degree bend where I attached it to the carb. which is what I needed. Advance auto sells a 6' cable, too long for my application,(I didn't want to cut it) you can get others online, amazon, etc. Mine being a preferred left hand drive, I placed mine in the center console, under the hand brake,(emergency brake) straight forward, facing the dash. That way there was only the one, short, factory radius, in the cable, and it was a very, direct, short run. It was also convenient having a hole already there with a factory plug in it. Todd might have the cable, I don't remember. The choke is located on the back side of the carb, so for me, it was imperative to have the cable non interfering, or obstructing travel of the cable. I think half the fun of the rebuild is the hunt, the search, and the learning of the project involved altogether! That being said, I have been enjoying working on mine, when I can make the time. There fun to drive, and you can do a lot with it. Especially having the dump bed option with the scissor lift! Good Luck, let us know how yours turned out!
    Limestone
     
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  10. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Limestone. Thank-you for all the great information. The carburetor you got from Todd, was it a remanufactured one or a new one?
    Thank you again!
     
  11. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    It was a new aftermarket carb.! Not to confuse you, I was reading earlier on the forum, that a gentleman bought, what looks like the same carb, on ebay out of China, for $118.00! We all like to save a buck, but I'm always leery to use a foreign site!
    (with all the scams and what not)I guess I'm old fashion! This gentleman said the sale went through no problem, with pay pal, and the carb. worked out fine! The pics of the carb. look the same to me! It's frustrating and ridiculous how expensive and how hard it can be too find some of this stuff! If I remember correctly, it was a recent post from earlier this year. Good Luck!
    Limestone
     
  12. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Limestone:

    So that carberator you got from Told is working good for you, with the manual choke and all? It runs and idels good for you? Thanks....I have to make a decision on carburetors by Monday or Tuesday. A remanufactured one like the one I have on it, or go with the different manuel choke one.
     
  13. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    Yes! I am happy with the carb. I got from Todd, and I would deal with him again. Remember, as in other carb. information on this forum states. With a manual choke, each vehicle has it's own personality, so to speak. In other words, just like the old days, climate temp will effect how your vehicle starts. On some vehicles you'll have to adjust, the choke more than others. When the weather is cold, you'll need to use the choke more often, then when the weather warms up you probably won't. I was trying to stay with the original carb. on my 89 hijet, but you can't find the shut off solenoid with 2 wires, anywhere. Rather than rig it, I went with the manual choke carb. These are great little trucks, the only problem is, finding affordable parts, when, and IF you do find them. This is the easiest alternative. Any other carb. you choose, requires a manual choke. I could get any other part for the original carb. except the 2 electric solenoids! I'm happy with mine!
    Limestone
     
  14. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Limestone:

    Thank you sooooo much for your reply and information!
    I noticed the carburetor I have on mine does NOT have the wires on it that plug into the green connecter that comes from electrical source or something. So I'm figuring going with the carburetor you did would be the way to go. Did the linkage hook up with no problem to your new carburetor?
    Thank you again for this information.
     
  15. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    Yes, the linkage hooked up nicely. That was the main reason I went with that one. Made to fit! Remember there isn't a lot of room squeezing it in there, but no worries, gently place it where it needs to go by wiggling it in place turning it at the right angles needed and it will work out fine. There is a single wire solenoid on top that will connect to the old wire from the single wire solenoid that you are replacing. Todd is real good answering questions on it. Then I simply, separately,taped off the other two wires from the solenoid that was eliminated. The throttle linkage hooked up as it was made for it!
    Limestone
     
  16. fmartin_gila

    fmartin_gila Well-Known Member

    Just for info to all following this thread. The cheap chinese cloned carbs were mentioned earlier. Quite a few years ago when I still lived in the states, I was heavily involved with the older aircooled VWs. Quite a few members of the VW community (including myself) tried to utilize the Chinese cloned VW carbs with mostly dismal results. Only an occasional success using them. Mostly just turned out to be a waste of time & money. A good carb rebuilder or OEM is the least troublesome way to go.

    Fred
     
  17. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Fred,
    Those have always been my thoughts exactly! Not having any experience with them, I was just repeating what another blogger posted somewhere on the mini truck forum. The sad part is I don't remember where. I have a good case of old timers. LOL Thanks for weighing in! At 61 yrs. old this is my very first foreign vehicle in my life! If a friend didn't give me this one, I wouldn't have it. I think these mini trucks are cool as heck!
    Limestone
     
  18. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Thank you again Limestone!
     
  19. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Limestone:

    I got my carburetor from Todd Saturday which requires the chock cable. I picked up a chock cable Saturday. I have the one wire solenoid on the carburetor, which wire do you leave coming from the engine. Two you tape back and one you leave. Which one do you leave?
     
  20. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    The single wire that came from the single wire solenoid on the old carb. The other solenoid had two wires coming from it, tape those back! My single wire was a black wire. might not be the same on yours. You did mark, or identify the wires when you removed the old carb. right?
    Limestone
     
  21. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    My old carb didn't have any wires on it at all. Someone removed them. The black wire coming from the engine, is that a hot wire only when you turn the key on? What am I looking for as far as what that single wire coming from the engine is suppose to do.
    Also, I see the clamp on the new carb that holds the outside of the chock cable. But what I don't see, is how or where the small center wire of the chock cable is suppose to hook/fasten to. Does it come in the chock cable kit? There is nothing on the new carb that I can fasten that thin chock cable wire too.

    Thanks again for your time
     
  22. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    My bad, I remember that you said that there was no green triangular shaped plug in. In this plug is three wires coming out of the main wiring harness. One is red, with a white stripe, one is white, with a red stripe. tape those off, they went to the old two wire solenoid! The third wire is the single black wire, and yes it is hot when you turn the key on, this comes from the ignition wiring through three relays. Use a test light to verify! I went and checked my choke hook up, and yes, in a choke cable kit, you'll want to hook up the (wire cable), choke cable to the choke linkage. I did remove the small choke linkage limiter on the new carb. My mini sat for 10 yrs. and needed a complete fuel restoration, cleaning and upgrade! I understand what your going through. Think it out, and plan your moves, don't kink the cable, it needs to be firm yet relaxed.
    Limestone
     
  23. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    Thank you soooo much for the help! I know what to do with the wires now. In attaching the small thin wire of the chock, did you have to remove a ball type connection to replace it with something else to attach the small cable to?
    If you can text me at 707-349-5572 I could text you back a picture of what I'm talking about. I can't seem to be able to attach pictures to this thread, it says they are too big.
    Thank you again!
     
  24. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    I'm familiar with the ball type connector which is standard. If you look at the throttle cable end, that also has a ball, (swivel) type connection. Try googling choke cable hardware kit and you could see what's available to complete the end of that connection for your hook up. Its a rotating swivel, so it doesn't bind up as it turns. Work the choke manually with your hand, and you can see what I'm talking about.
    Limestone
     
  25. Jigs-n-fixtures

    Jigs-n-fixtures Well-Known Member

    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...c45-cd78f07a84d8&pf_rd_r=7SB7FJV3B45F8889R6PN
    It should allow you to hook to the ball on the carb. If not replace the ball stud on the choke, With the one in the kit.
    Now the hard part: Slit a 1/4-20X 3/8-inch long bolt length wise with a hacksaw, (this gives you a slot which will hold the cable); determine how long the cable needs to be, and slip an uninsulated crimp connector over the cable and crimp it on as a stop, then trim it back so it is only about an 1/8-inch long. Put the cable in the slit, and screw the bolt into the fitting to hold it..
     
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  26. lowranger

    lowranger Member

    I did work the chock by hand. What did you use to attach the thin chock cable wire to that ball type connector?

    Thanks
     
  27. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    take a look at the link that jigs sent you and scroll along the different linkage's. you have several options. I used one similar to the universal dune buggy one!
    (Great job, and Info, Jigs)
    Limestone
     
  28. SDK1968

    SDK1968 Active Member

    cant swear it will work for your Mini.... but you might check out my carb swap thread.... the carb was only $39.
     
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  29. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    SDK,
    What part of Ohio are you from? I am located between Cleveland and Akron Ohio. Do you use your Mini on road or strictly off like me?
    Limestone
     
    Last edited: Jan 15, 2020
  30. Limestone

    Limestone Well-Known Member

    Lowranger,
    I hope you are able to figure your choke out!
    Good Luck, and keep us posted with what you did.
    Limestone
     

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