Recently I asked you guys about advice on what could be wrong when my acty recently died. Well, here's the results (4 months later might I add)... It broke the timing belt at 80,000km. When the belt broke, it also bent 2 intake valves in the process. While the mechanic was already in there, I got them to replace the water pump. Mechanic charged $734.00 for labor only for replacing timing belt and removing, then replacing head. (The machinist has a seperate charge for doing the head work). and by the time I was finished with the parts I needed, it was $638.00 in parts alone, but I purchased the good gaskets and parts so they would last. Soooooo.......a grand total of $1,372 (and who knows what the machinist will charge) because the timing belt broke in a 92 honda acty. Oh yea, here's the best part, my gf drove it home (8 miles) and smelled anti-freeze so I checked the oil...Sure enough, there's anti-freeze in the oil. I'm guessing they messed up with the head gaskets somehow but will find out later. So after a 4 month wait, i drove it 8 miles, and we still don't have a working vehicle. My advice to others....include a timing belt change in your maintenance program!!! Ryan Beasley
80000 kms is a bit early that the timing belt dies. Here they talk about 100.000 kms. quote Timing belt The role of the timing belt (a device with a chain instead of a belt is called a "timing chain") is to transfer power to the camshaft through the cam pulley for valve open/close operation. If the belt system is being used, replacement is necessary after approximately one hundred thousand kilometers.unquote http://en.ktc.co.jp/products/catalog/pdf_cat/Engine.pdf My 1997 engine now has only 31.000 km, so I guess still plenty of time till the car will reach your 80,000 kms. But better I prepare for that. I will investigate here in Japan and will ask some japanese friends. If I get any other info than above, I will post that here. I just found this, they ad as following: Product Specs Brand: FEEL'S - HONDA TWINCAM Product: Strengthened Timing Belt COMPATIBILITY NOTES: Compatible Engines: - E07A - B16A - B16B - B18C - H22A - H23A - F20B The FEEL'S Strengthened Timing Belt is 4 times stronger than the OEM ones, and will not stretch or fail in race conditions. Belt will improve performance in any motor sport, and is recommended for high rev, high speed driving. Upon purchasing please state the car from the compatibility list that you would like to have the FEEL'S Timing Belt for. Get this and all your JDM at RHDJapan! BUT, quite costly, $250 ! http://www.rhdjapan.com/feel-s-strengthened-timing-belt-59240 Original one is $85 http://www.honda-acty-parts.com/honda-acty-timing-belt-e07a also check price here http://www.japanautomobileparts.com/06141-pz1-109650.html?zenid=dc674c63aaa7fd3c2c61501836b9ee39 Good info here: automotive timing belt list, including dimensions etc http://file.seekpart.com/keywordpdf/2010/12/20/20101220232425640.pdf some info on lifetime of normal belts and 'better' ones http://www.power-enterprise.co.jp/USA/products/engine/timing_belt/timing_belt.htm
I found some info for Honda, but the Acty is not included Honda Timing Belt Tech Data and Replacement Intervals http://0.tqn.com/d/autorepair/1/0/r/3/-/-/timing-belt-honda.jpg depending on engine between 60k and 105k miles. This is for the Accord: 105,000 mi/168,000 km/ 7 years This two-page maintenance schedule outlines the minimum required maintenance. Service at the indicated time or distance, whichever comes first. Use the Maintenance Schedule for Severe Conditions if the vehicle meets any of the qualifiers listed in the severe conditions schedule or if the vehicle is normally driven in Canada. According to state and federal regulations, failure to do the maintenance items marked with asterisk(*) will not void customer's emissions warranties. However, Honda recommends that all maintenance services be done at the recommended interval to ensure long-term reliability. o Inspect valve clearance (cold) Intake: 0.24-0.28 mm (0.009-0.011 in.) Exhaust: 0.28-0.32 mm (0.011-0.013 in.) o Replace spark plugs for '01 model. Use NGK (PZFR5F-11) or DENSO (PKJ16CR-L11).Gap: 1.0-1.1 mm (0.039-0.043 in.) o Replace timing belt and balancer belt (Removal:, Installation and inspect water pump. o Check idle speed. Should be 700+/-50 rpm in neutral (Automatic transmission in [N] or [P] position). o Replace engine oil. -Capacity with filter change: 4.3 l (4.5 US qt, 3.8 Imp qt) o Rotate tires. Follow the pattern shown in the Owner's Manual -Check tire inflation and condition. o Replace engine oil filter. o Inspect front and rear brakes. Check pads and discs for wear (thickness), damage, and cracks. Check calipers for damage, leaks, and tightness of mount bolts. Check brake lining for cracking, glazing, wear, and contamination. Check wheel cylinders for leaks. o Check parking brake adjustment. Should be fully applied within 6 to 9 clicks (disc brake) or within 4 to 7 clicks (drum brake). o Inspect tie rod ends, steering gearbox, and rack boots for damage and leaking grease and fluid. Check steering linkage for looseness. Check boots for damage and leaking grease. o Inspect suspension components. Check bolts for tightness. Check condition of ball joint boots for deterioration and damage. o Inspect driveshaft boots. Check boots for cracks and boot bands for tightness. o Inspect brake hoses and lines (including ABS). -Check the master cylinder, proportioning control valve, and ABS modulator for damage and leakage. o Check all fluid levels and condition of fluids; check for leaks. If necessary, add Honda ATF-Z1 or MTF, engine coolant, brake fluid, and windshield washer fluid. o Inspect cooling system hoses and connections. Check for damage, leaks, and deterioration. Check for proper fan operation. o Inspect exhaust system* . Check catalytic converter heat shield, exhaust pipe, and muffler for damage, leaks, and tightness. o Inspect fuel lines and connections*. Check for loose connections, cracks and deterioration; retighten loose connections and replace damaged parts. -------------------- one comments:I understand what your owners manual says. It is not correct. I work for a dealership, and have done so for the past 5 years. I have never seen a timing belt break on a Honda in less than 105K miles or 7 years. It RARELY ever happens. The quote I posted is from the website we use that American Honda has posted themselves. It holds the current information. American Honda always advises you to check with ISIS to see if there is any updated information. Source: http://honda-tech.com/
COMPATIBILITY NOTES:Compatible Engines:- E07A- B16A- B16B- B18C- H22A- H23A- F20B Wait so B H AND F series engine are compatible with the E07a motor in our acty.find it a lil weird cause of them being dohc except the f series thus a bigger belt. If this is true I can get gates racing belts for our cars for a decent price.
