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1992 Daihatsu Atrai, Port Saint Lucie Florida

Discussion in 'Introductions' started by Mkguyvr, Apr 13, 2014.

  1. mad659

    mad659 Member

    I am sure the test drive will be fun! BTW here is a pic of the mirage disc brake on my truck so far. The hyundai disc was CAM00251.jpg CAM00246.jpg not going to work.
     
  2. Mkguyvr

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    A little teaser vid tried holding the phone and the wheel at the same time...., I got to "test drive" the van last night, still have a couple of bugs to work out but.... its definitely going to be fast as hell, like really fast...lol

     
  3. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Mad659, was that the drum like mine when you started? So mine would look the same after turning? Just want a reference so when I have it don I have something to show the machine shop. Oh and BTW Im going to need those discs soon...lol Doing launches in the driveway.
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  4. mad659

    mad659 Member

    I am green with envy, wish I could find one of those motors here. Lucky you.
    Your drum brakes should be the same, if not, it's the same process. Mine had some small studs which I replaced with Toyota 12mm x 1.5 studs which fit right in without redrilling. As you can see from the pics it is turned down right about where the stud hole ends. Had to trim the studs a bit on the lathe once I pressed them in so they fit into the mirage disc. You also have to turn the flange on the hub so the disc will fall flat on the hub surface. Try to make it fit snug. mine was not as snug as I would have liked but it was a free job on my friends lathe. Good news is that I fixed my lathe on Saturday and was able to turn the studs to have it fit nice and snug. Time to work on the caliper base. Here is another pic showing the flange turned down a bit.
     

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  5. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Cant wait to see your caliper brackets, take measurements for me, and see if you can draw it with the dimensions, it would be a great start point for me when I get started on mine.
     
  6. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    So I have been able to reliably drive the van up through the gears.... the gearing is way off, between the tires and the ring and pinion it is bad. Looks like I will be re gearing( if possible with the Daihatsu rear end) or going to a new rear end which will be more money and loads of work, tub the inner fenders, remove the fuel tank and get a fuel cell, 4 link, new tires and wheels in the rear, possible new drive shaft etc. Anyone ever been able to re-gear the mini axles? If not maybe you guys have ideas of and alternative axle setup with the size needed for the Hijet, overall i cant be wider than 53 inches (outside of tire to outside of tire).
     
  7. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Too low gearing? or too high? The axle looks very similar to a Toyota axle with the removable 3rd member.
     
  8. mr.mindless

    mr.mindless Member

    I'll echo mad - too tall or too short? What's your current axle gearing?
     
  9. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Gear looks to be a 3.73 and Goldwings are a 2.93. Plus i have a 2 inch lower tire which makes the gearing worse. Would be nice to just change the gears but what i remember of toyota i think its a little bigger, maybe the 2 wheel drive cars?
     
  10. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Maybe a shortened ford 8.8"?, I believe you could find one with a 2.26 gear ratio. Not many high gears for the toyotas, 3.07 I think is the highest for a 7.5". Look for older american cars with large v8's. BTW is there a gear in the output shaft on the Goldwing? Some motorbikes like the Hayabusa have a gear between the crank and the output.
    How about a small chain drive setup as seen on some racing jeeps? You told me you had an offset on the driveshaft output on your engine. How about a sprocket on the output of the engine to a small hub that transfers the chain to a yoke? Think of it as a 1 speed chain driven transfer case. You could change the ratio to whatever you need.
     
  11. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Another thought would be a suzuki transfer case which has a 1.45 high gear ratio. Flipping it around would give you a 1.45 overdrive. It is small and strong enough to handle the goldwing I beleive.
     
  12. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Mad, I already sourced 2 ford 8.8s one is a 70s-80- Lincoln Versailles with disc brakes and the other is a 99 F150 , The Lincoln has gears between 2.70 and 3.0 but no axles, the F150 is complete. I will be narrowing the Lincoln axle housing. I am hoping to keep the same rims and tires by getting 4 lug axles made, just not sure on the 4 lug discs yet. I want to just replace the axle I have with a new one and eliminate all the hacking up of the wheel wells and 4 link etc. Thats the plan anyway, we will see what happens. Thanks for the ideas guys.
     
  13. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Ok so I have gone a different direction with the axle, I found a housing that would be an almost direct bolt in minus a few modifications. The Dana 44 (narrow trac) from a 70s CJ5 Jeep, its 51.5 at the mounting flanges, the Daihatsu is 51.25. Not sure of the gear ratio as of yet but im not concerned due to the parts availability of these units. I will have to have the axle shaft wheel mounting pilots turned down to accept the Daihatsu wheels and then have the shafts redrilled for 4x100, the brake discs too.
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    Heres all the junk I had to remove to get what I wanted.
     
  14. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Great find! I abuse 2 of those that are on my Cherokee crawler/basher. Lots of parts for those. Almost finished my caliper adapter yesterday. I'll post you some pics and measurements later on as soon as I finish the prototype.
     
  15. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Im trying to figure out the rear disc im going to use on it now, looking at the 88 Ford Thunderbird Turbo Coupe. I will have to make some brackets to make it work. I am looking forward to seeing your bracket you are making for your fronts.
     
  16. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Just finished it a little while ago but you're gonna have to wait till my cell phone charges up so I can upload them.
     
  17. mad659

    mad659 Member

    Here you go CAM00280.jpg CAM00289.jpg CAM00292.jpg CAM00297.jpg
     

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  18. Mkguyvr

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    That looks like it will work nicely. I just found out my lug pattern is not the 4x100 but instead its 4x110 which sucks because it limits me to rx7 and 626 parts only for brakes. I have everything ready for the machine shop for next week to get the axles and rear discs changed to 4 lug. I went with 2005 Ford Crown Vic rear discs and calipers, they just barely fit with the caliper inside the 15 inch wheel. Its the largest i could find that i didnt have to have to much taken off the diameter of the mounting flange where it would cut into the old 5 lug pattern ,only have to cut the o.d. Down 3/16 to fit into the back of the disc. The center bore of the disc was small enough to allow for the 4x110 pattern too. It was tricky to find the right combination. I will post a pic of the Very Little clearance of the rear setup.
     
  19. Mkguyvr

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  20. mad659

    mad659 Member

    I beleive all the older daihatsu hijets are 4x110. I was going to make my wheel pattern 4x100 as there are a lot of options but then I found those adapters which are 4x110 and 4x1oo to 4x114.3 and didn't go thru the trouble. Yours looks like a tight fit but hey, if it works, go with it.
     
  21. Mkguyvr

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    Yeah these will work for the rear, now its back to the drawing board for the fronts, but I have a good idea where to start with them.
     
  22. mad659

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    Just did the adapters for my 2 trucks. Made a special piece on the lathe and now I can duplicate the adapter very easily if I wanted to. Yours should be the same, if so, I used a piece of 1/4" steel plate 4''x 7'', used a 1 3/4" hole saw to cut the half moon shape that goes over the spindle area ( had to file it a little to get a tight fit CAM00305.jpg CAM00308.jpg ) and marked where the 3 holes are. The hub will hit the 1/4" plate when you put it on, to fix this all you do is open up the half moon hole after you have made the 3 holes, hope this helps.
     
  23. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    How do you feel about making a paper template of one of those for me and mailing it to me, that or scan and email it to me, it can be scaled up or down if it gets out of size for any reason, i could paypal you something for your trouble. Would save me some time on mine. Cant wait yo see it on your truck and how it performs.
     
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  24. mad659

    mad659 Member

    I'll do better, pm me your address and I'll ship you a pair. No big deal. Send me a pic of your backplate or simply compare yours to mine in the photo to make sure it's the same. I found out that the caliper from the 94 Mirage comes in 2 versions, 2 and 4 door model. I'm pretty sure I have the 4 door model but I have to verify this. I guess if the caliper hole doesn't match your caliper you'll have to redesign it or look for the correct caliper. BTW, you might have to use a shim between the plate and caliper. If I get a chance to open up up that half moon cut so I can have the hub seat completely onto the spindle i can tell you how thick the shim needs to be if any. Cheers.
     
  25. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Man that would be awesome, if you send me your PayPal e-mail i can reimburse you for the shipping and or the materials. I pm-ed you. Thanks again.
     
  26. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    Made the air cleaner shorter to accommodate the new dog box (engine cover) i built. Just needs some foam gaskets to seal it to the floor and some sort of latch system.
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  27. mad659

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    Nice, bent it yourself?
     
  28. Mkguyvr

    Mkguyvr Member

    yeah, the cheapy Harbor freight bender, $50 with a 20% coupon, I use to have a 50 inch Jet pan brake and stomp shear but had no room for them when I closed my welding shop. 071911152437.jpg 031211201448.jpg 060811161657.jpg
     
  29. Mkguyvr

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    I made my own Camping trailers for Off Road Vehicles. Plus did whatever came in the door but I built and sold these for a while.
     
  30. Mkguyvr

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    This one I built for a guy to pull across the country with his Honda Accord.
     

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