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15" wheels

Discussion in 'Mitsubishi Minicab' started by Malaculus, Jul 6, 2010.

  1. Malaculus

    Malaculus New Member

    I was looking at some 15 inch wheels basically 15x7 4-114.3 0 GBL. With 195/50/15 tires. Does anyone know if the backspacing or if this combo will fit a 1992 minicab. If not any suggestions? I want to put nicer looking wheels on and 12 " rims look so small. P.S. the overall diameter of this combo is 22.5" Thanks
     
  2. mikethescud

    mikethescud New Member

    Hey... what size do you have now... 12¨ wheels or 12¨ rims???

    My immediate thoughts would be no. you might get away with moving from 12 to 13inch but not 12 to 15 (if i understand your comment).

    When putting on bigger wheels than factory you have two problems. the suspension travel and the altered torque requirements on the engine and transmission. Smaller wheels require less torque to move and acceleration is quicker. if you have a big powerful engine this is not a problem.

    You´d probably need hub adaptor plates too... if you throw enough money at this you can probably do it but a simple swap wont work i believe.

    goodluck.
     
  3. Malaculus

    Malaculus New Member

    Actually I have 12" wheels so the diameter of the tires is 21.5". I was thinking by using the wheel size I mentioned (15x7) with a 195/50/15 tire that the final diameter would be about 22.5" which is only 1 inch larger. My problem is, does the 15 inch wheel size create a problem with caliper or spring interference because it is a wider wheel and if so what offset would pull it out far enough to clear everything. I don't really want to buy the wheels and then find out they don't fit.
    I can get the rims and tires online for 1/2 the price of buying locally.
    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  4. cabnfever

    cabnfever Member

    i just put 14x6 et 35 with 1" adapters on my subaru with 185/60/14's. with out the 1" spacer/adapter it would not have cleared the spring. In your situation it will probably be tight as your et puts the wheel out a lil over an inch but your 1" wider. You should try to find out the back spacing in inches and then measure from your spring to your outer rotor face. I believe you can fit a rim with 4 to 5"s back space. Your calipers arent even an issue if your going anything larger than stock. One thing you didnt mention is if you put a lift kit on your truck as you wont be able to run wide 15s without a lifted truck
     
  5. Malaculus

    Malaculus New Member

    Thanks for the info. I did not even think about a lift kit. I will probably go with a 2" lift to handle the width. I will look into the backspacing. It would be nice if wheel manufacturers stated the specs in a consistent manner. It gets confusing when some have offsets listed and others use backspacing.
    How tall are the 185/60/14 tires?
    Thanks
     
  6. mikethescud

    mikethescud New Member

    yeah... i see now that its not such a big difference.

    I would be cheaky, go in locally and say your thinking about some new wheels and would it be possible to put xxx (rim wheel combination) on my minitruck. Just say you want to know the price , how it looks, and if its possible etc... they´ll try sell it to you. but say you need to ask the wife first. Then you have what you need to know.

    There are also 2-3`` suspension lift kits on ebay less than $150. but i doubt you need it.

    goodluck.
     
  7. cabnfever

    cabnfever Member

    my combinatiom is 22.7"s the speedo now reads slower than actual speed. speedo reading of 100kph is actually 107.6kph so no real biggie there.

    heres a site you might find helpful

    www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
     
  8. rwb31

    rwb31 Member

    hay cabin you put 15 inch rims on your sambar you have any pics?
     
  9. mschlitzkus

    mschlitzkus New Member

    The 15 x 7 wheel will fit fine. Just make sure you have a 4" backspace (in atv/utv wheels it would be a 4+3 or 10mm offset). The 1" taller tire will not need a lift. You probably will not even notice speedo/performance at all. They will actually tuck under truck nice. If you go 5" backspace it will not turn all the way left or right (rubs on inner lower control arm strut). Again this depends on how wide the tire is. The bolt pattern is 4/115 and lugs are 12mm x 1.5 thread pitch. Hope this helps
     
  10. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    @ mschlitzkus, I have ordered a nice set of wheels that should fit — eBay item number: 191106129528. Price was $362, with free shipping. Today's price is $412.
    I have a '99 Minicab with a 4" lift. The wheels and tires from the dealer are: 12 X 7 wheels (4X100 pattern) with 8 X 25 SUNL off-road tires. I've wanted to use larger-diameter wheels and low-profile highway tires to achieve a quiet and and safer driving experience at higher speeds. (In my state, we can drive mini trucks on any road at 55 mph or less, excluding Interstates and limited-access highways.) I'm looking at 195/60R15 tires, which are just over 24" diameter.
    Custom wheel rings will be required to maintain the hub-centric integrity, as the new wheels' center bore is 73.00 mm and "Mitzi's" hub seems to measure 55.7 mm — at least that's the stock wheel's center bore measurement. I plan to measure the actual hub before ordering the wheel rings. I'll post my results when the job is done.
     
  11. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    Followup on the new wheels and tires: I received the 15 x 7 alloy wheels and had Kumho tires (195/60R15) mounted. They fit beautifully. Just waiting for the hub-centric rings to arrive.
     
  12. Tony Evers

    Tony Evers Active Member

    hows
    your turning radius with the 15" wheels?
    Tony 96 carry
     
  13. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    I'll let you know. I'm currently running 25"-diameter 205/80R12 off-road SunF tires and I've never measured the turning radius. My new Kumho 195/60R15 road tires have a 24.22"-diameter, so it shouldn't be much different. The hub-centric rings arrived late yesterday. Gotta be out of town today; rain all day tomorrow; hope I'll get to it on Friday.
     
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  14. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    Tony, I got home early enough to put on the new wheels and tires and take a drive. Sweet! No vibes, no noise, just smooth and quiet, and it handles like it's glued to the road. I'm able to climb hills in 4th gear, which was impossible to do even in 3rd with the off-road tires.

    Wheels: eBay item number: 191106129528 — new from Discount Tire. (Discount Tire Part #:53868)
    Tires: Kumho 195/60R15 ordered through Walmart online.
    Hub-centric rings: Custom fab 73mm X 55.95mm from Motorsport Tech in Sparks, NV.

    Note: 15" wheels based on 4 X 100 mm lug pattern, 7-inch width (4 backspace+3 offset, or "+10 offset" ). Fits my '99 Mits and others.
     

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  15. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

  16. Tony Evers

    Tony Evers Active Member

    Sweet set up with your truck. You obviously have spent some time and money putting your rig together
     
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  17. Liuxias

    Liuxias New Member

    I will probably go with a 2" lift to handle the width. I will look into the backspacing. It would be nice if wheel manufacturers stated the specs in a consistent manner. It gets confusing when some have offsets listed and others use backspacing.



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  18. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    I know what you mean. I had to get an education on the subject to find the 15" wheels I needed; also, if one manufacturer uses one method, they often don't know what it translates to in the other method. To paraphrase myself, "With a 7-inch wheel width, you need a 4-inch backspace, which means it has a +3-inch offset, or more commonly with metric manufacturers, a +10mm offset." Fits my '99 Mits and others.
    Finding a 7-inch-wide wheel with a +10mm offset was the most difficult. Most have much larger offsets whereby the lug fastening surface is flush with the outside plane of the wheel. The Drag rims I mentioned fit perfectly. View attachment 14718
     

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  19. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    Here's what they look like on the truck –
     

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  20. ozarkman

    ozarkman Member

    @Liuxias: If you go with a higher lift, e.g., 4 inches, you'll have more clearance for a larger diameter tire. If your truck's front wheels are positioned under your seat, then you must pay close attention to tire diameter; nevertheless a higher lift will allow for more diameter up to a point (allowing for suspension travel).
    If your truck's front wheels are positioned all the way forward like mine, then the front fender wells typically can accommodate a 24.22-inch diameter tire — *combined* with a 4-inch lift, mud-guard removal, and front bumper trimming. It's plastic on mine so trimming was easy. A Surform rasp will work. See closeup photo.
     

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